The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.

[Albertini]

I think there were a lot more important things to do than check the twins for sedation such as trying to find what had happened to Maddie. I find your theories ridiculous. Why should the McCanns mention sedation if they themselves had sedated Maddie . doesn't make sense.

Pardon? come again? You think phoning relatives or friends or sleeping is more important than checking to see if your twin children have been sedated with God knows what, which could do heaven knows what to them?

Really?

And you find my theories ridiculous. Pot, kettle black there, but of course you do not provide any answers as to what precisely could be described as "ridiculous".

Shall i tell you want doesn't make sense? Thinking your children have been sedated by an abductor but then not getting them medically checked out to make sure they are ok. That doesn't make sense.

Why should they mention sedation? Perhaps as a way to cover the suspicion as to why the twins didn't wake up, knowing that if the twins were actually checked out and it was found they had been sedated, they had got their defence in early.

furthermore , if they were any way involved why would they have pushed for SY to investigate them.
the bottom line is  the PJ did not have the evidence to charge them. SY have enough sense to rule out the family first as they seem to have done. They have stated the family are not suspects but you still believe the mcCanns are involved. Lets hope Portugal allow SY to complete their investigations to see if they can find out what happened to Maddie and stop all this abuse directed towards the family on the internet.

We keep going through all this. Let us see what happens with the investigation. It's taking them a while to bring in those abductors though isn't it? Even those "persons of interest" who were supposedly being "swooped on" weeks ago. What happened to them?

Who is abusing them? We are simply to quote Gerry McCann "purporting a theory" which Gerry tells us as he has no problem with.

And after all these questions about them are still being asked becasue they killed the investigation before their version of events could be clarified by the PJ.

Had they actively participated and allowed the PJ to move forward then they wouldn't have this weight of suspicion against them.

[Redblossom]

I know I have read that Gerry went out searching. you stated that they did not go out because it was too cold and dark . I believe that is a lie.

No, you are mistsken,  i never said THEY did not go out searchng, just Kate. So there is no lie.She didnt.

[Redblossom]

Not Father Seddon's number they didn't! Why would they when he had Kates number, and she had his?

I immediately sent a text message to Kates mobile

?????
transcript from a tv interview, eta btw she is talking about that night


Susan Healy: 'Kate phoned me, errm… about an hour after Gerry and asked me to get in touch with, errm… Paul Seddon, who is the priest, Father Seddon, who married her, who baptised Madeleine, errm… and I didn't have his mobile phone so I rang a friend of Kate's and got… got him and he rang Kate right away and I think as soon as this happened, as soon as Kate realised what had happened, it was as if, errm.. she started to ask God right away to give her Madeleine. Errm… because Kate and Gerry were not the most devout family. We do have Catholic faith, errm… it's… it's the religion that we were brought up in, but I would never describe myself as a devout person. We're just ordinary people, errm… but Kate certainly has… has clung to her religion, errm.. since this happened. Possibly she feels that, you know, it has to be a greater thing that helps us to get Madeleine back. Errm… something with more power than… than we have.'

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And fromSeddons statement, it sure seems it was that night

The first time I heard of Madeleines disappearance was in the early morning of Friday 4th May 2007.
I received a phone call from Linda who told me what had happened, and I immediately sent a text message to Kates mobile, telling her that my prayers were with them. I received a reply almost immediately and I remember Kate wrote that she felt as if the ?world was about to fall apart?.

At about 1.30 that morning Kate called me in a state of great agitation. I tried to calm her as well as I could saying that Madeleine could have had a bout of sleepwalking and that she would be all right. I remember that Kate was worried by the fact that Madeleine was wearing short sleeved pyjamas and that she could catch a cold. I felt that only a mother could think like that and say such a thing. I could perceive the trauma that Kate was experiencing from her voice. I led with prayers and other situations in my role as priest.


So less of thecrying out of LIES LIES

[Benice]

No, you are mistsken,  i never said THEY did not go out searchng, just Kate. So there is no lie.She didnt.

She did Red.

Searches made after they moved the twins to the Paynes apartment 

Pages 81-83 Kate's book


...................................At one point I went out to speak to the police, needing some reassurance.   It was difficult and exasperating as communication was so limited and there was no reassurance to be had.    I walked briskly up and down Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva, sometimes breaking into a jog, clinging to the hope that I'd spot something in the dark.   The fear of Madeleine being dumped somewhere and dying of hypothermia started to hijack my thoughts.............................

............................As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search.  We went up and down roads we'd never seen before, having barely left the Ocean Club complex all week.   We jumped over walls and raked through undergrowth.  We looked in in ditches and holes.  All was quiet apart from the sound of barking dogs, which added to the eeriness of the atmosphere.   I remember opening a big dumpster type bin and saying to myself please God, don't let her be in there.

[faithlilly]

She did Red.

Searches made after they moved the twins to the Paynes apartment 

Pages 81-83 Kate's book


...................................At one point I went out to speak to the police, needing some reassurance.   It was difficult and exasperating as communication was so limited and there was no reassurance to be had.    I walked briskly up and down Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva, sometimes breaking into a jog, clinging to the hope that I'd spot something in the dark.   The fear of Madeleine being dumped somewhere and dying of hypothermia started to hijack my thoughts.............................

............................As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search.  We went up and down roads we'd never seen before, having barely left the Ocean Club complex all week.   We jumped over walls and raked through undergrowth.  We looked in in ditches and holes.  All was quiet apart from the sound of barking dogs, which added to the eeriness of the atmosphere.   I remember opening a big dumpster type bin and saying to myself please God, don't let her be in there.

Isn't it strange that apart the policeman who spotted the McCanns 'searching' just before daybreak no other policeman has claimed to have seen or spoken to Kate at the time she claims ?

[DCI]

She did Red.

Searches made after they moved the twins to the Paynes apartment 

Pages 81-83 Kate's book


...................................At one point I went out to speak to the police, needing some reassurance.   It was difficult and exasperating as communication was so limited and there was no reassurance to be had.    I walked briskly up and down Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva, sometimes breaking into a jog, clinging to the hope that I'd spot something in the dark.   The fear of Madeleine being dumped somewhere and dying of hypothermia started to hijack my thoughts.............................

............................As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search.  We went up and down roads we'd never seen before, having barely left the Ocean Club complex all week.   We jumped over walls and raked through undergrowth.  We looked in in ditches and holes.  All was quiet apart from the sound of barking dogs, which added to the eeriness of the atmosphere.   I remember opening a big dumpster type bin and saying to myself please God, don't let her be in there.

He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO-NETO.htm

He remembers that during a brief rest period at about 04.00, Madeleine's mother asked whether there was any news and whether the roads had been blocked off.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLOS-LACAO.htm

[Redblossom]

She did Red.

Searches made after they moved the twins to the Paynes apartment 

Pages 81-83 Kate's book


...................................At one point I went out to speak to the police, needing some reassurance.   It was difficult and exasperating as communication was so limited and there was no reassurance to be had.    I walked briskly up and down Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva, sometimes breaking into a jog, clinging to the hope that I'd spot something in the dark.   The fear of Madeleine being dumped somewhere and dying of hypothermia started to hijack my thoughts.............................

............................As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search.  We went up and down roads we'd never seen before, having barely left the Ocean Club complex all week.   We jumped over walls and raked through undergrowth.  We looked in in ditches and holes.  All was quiet apart from the sound of barking dogs, which added to the eeriness of the atmosphere.   I remember opening a big dumpster type bin and saying to myself please God, don't let her be in there.

Sorry, but I cant take retellings of the facts after four years as facts from a previous arguido as true,  NONE was told before, when there was ALL opportunity,   you carry on though believing though, its not as if she has has not told PORKIES in her BOOk, keep up Benice


Oh and she says she searched for at least an hour for her child you know eight hours after she was gone, woopie dooh did she  want a medal? Whilst in the same breath criticising the dozens and dozens of volunteers  and pj searches? And saying they could havebeen better organised, the total  ingratitude arrogance and brass neck is stupifyng at best! What a bloody cheek! Leaving your kid vulnerble and then blaming others for not searching well enough HAHA!!! KARMA
 

[faithlilly]

He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO-NETO.htm

He remembers that during a brief rest period at about 04.00, Madeleine's mother asked whether there was any news and whether the roads had been blocked off.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLOS-LACAO.htm

So nothing in the policeman's statement about Kate's further 'searching ', I see.

[Redblossom]

I think there were a lot more important things to do than check the twins for sedation such as trying to find what had happened to Maddie. I find your theories ridiculous. Why should the McCanns mention sedation if they themselves had sedated Maddie . doesn't make sense.

furthermore , if they were any way involved why would they have pushed for SY to investigate them.
the bottom line is  the PJ did not have the evidence to charge them. SY have enough sense to rule out the family first as they seem to have done. They have stated the family are not suspects but you still believe the mcCanns are involved. Lets hope Portugal allow SY to complete their investigations to see if they can find out what happened to Maddie and stop all this abuse directed towards the family on the internet.

What an assumption to make, with no evidence.....that the Mccanns are not involved..and that SY finding what happened to Maddie WILL mean an outside source, .you see no one single person of authority has ever stated this, on the contrary most authorities have suspected them

Those are the facts


The case is a very PUBLIC CASE, it is a COLD CASE, it is UNSOLVED, the family have NOT been cleared, therefore it is within anyones rights and understandable to ask questions and not believe the Mccann mantras if they wish to do so. That is not called abuse. Its called freedom of thought.And who are you to try and expunge  it just because YOU think they are innocent. You are no different to Kate Mccann saying anyone who brings up the dogs is being  abusive!!! And dont ask me for a link, because it is 100% true and on their findmadeleine website

brass neck

[DCI]

So nothing in the policeman's statement about Kate's further 'searching ', I see.

Thats not what you said Faith.

Isn't it strange that apart the policeman who spotted the McCanns 'searching' just before daybreak no other policeman has claimed to have seen or spoken to Kate at the time she claims ?

no other policeman has claimed to have seen or spoken to Kate at the time she claims ?

So what time did Kate claim?

As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search

4 May 2007  Sunrise    Sunset

                      06:36      20:31

He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.

[faithlilly]

Thats not what you said Faith.

no other policeman has claimed to have seen or spoken to Kate at the time she claims ?

So what time did Kate claim?

As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search

4 May 2007  Sunrise    Sunset

                      06:36      20:31

He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.

'Isn't it strange that apart the policeman who spotted the McCanns 'searching' just before daybreak'

So that would cover that then.

[AnneGuedes]

To search you have to be sure there's something to find.
The McCanns don't seem to have been convinced an alive Madeleine could be found. Eventually over the boarders, the seas, the solar system..
Would have all those benevolent searchers done what they did if they had been told Madeleine had been abducted ? See Mr Mackenzie's reaction when he heard Mr McCann speak of paedo gang on the phone.

[Carana]

'Isn't it strange that apart the policeman who spotted the McCanns 'searching' just before daybreak'

So that would cover that then.

No. Why? Were there any other people around early morning?

[Benice]

Sorry, but I cant take retellings of the facts after four years as facts from a previous arguido as true,  NONE was told before, when there was ALL opportunity,   you carry on though believing though, its not as if she has has not told PORKIES in her BOOk, keep up Benice

Oh and she says she searched for at least an hour for her child you know eight hours after she was gone, woopie dooh did she  want a medal?

Oh and she says she searched for at least an hour for her child you know eight hours after she was gone, woopie dooh did she  want a medal? Whilst in the same breath criticising the dozens and dozens of volunteers  and pj searches? And saying they could havebeen better organised, the total  ingratitude arrogance and brass neck is stupifyng at best! What a bloody cheek! Leaving your kid vulnerble and then blaming others for not searching well enough HAHA!!! KARMA
 

So you think she was wrong to stay at 5A to speak to the police?       It seems to me Red that anything Kate says which suits your agenda you believe, but if it doesn't -  then you just say she lied. 

Amaral was a former arguido but unlike Kate now has a criminal record as a result of it  - do you have the same difficulty taking his re-telling of the facts as true?

She has never criticised the people who gave up their time to search for Madeleine - why on earth would she.  Any criticism she made was aimed at the police.

All the sneering comments in the world won't alter the fact that she did search for her daughter.

[AnneGuedes]

She searched for her daughter, after a lot of people had, who didn't even know before that Madeleine existed. That was in "Madeleine", 4 years later.
Lifting a bin lid suggests she didn't search for an alive Madeleine.