Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?

[pegasus]

As I said it is a bag but it also looks like a case.
BTW there was someone posting on spanish language sites in Aug/Sept 2007 (long before any rumours of this bag existed) referring to a bag of this colour and type.

[VIXTE]

The other luggage bag is missing from 5A photos. Try and find it. I wonder what those pile of clothes on shelf was inside originally.

They came to PDL with 5 bags.

Do you really think the PJ and their UK helpers at the time were that stupid that they left it for YOU now to discover that?

[pathfinder73]

Do you really think the PJ and their UK helpers at the time were that stupid that they left it for YOU now to discover that?

No they would have looked into it as there were reports that they were looking for a missing bag and Kate's book eyewitness who claimed to have seen them acting suspiciously with a big black bag.

[VIXTE]

No they would have looked into it as there were reports that they were looking for a missing bag and Kate's book eyewitness who claimed to have seen them acting suspiciously with a big black bag.

SO, you think this wasn't investigated thoroughly ? Why don't you ask them? We live in a democratic world and the SY is at our service... same for PJ in Portugal...

[Mr Gray]

No they would have looked into it as there were reports that they were looking for a missing bag and Kate's book eyewitness who claimed to have seen them acting suspiciously with a big black bag.

so its a big black bag..not the blue sports bag in the photo

[pathfinder73]

so its a big black bag..not the blue sports bag in the photo

I don't know if the missing bag is a black one but there's a luggage bag missing from 5A photos. 2 luggage tags - only blue one seen in wardrobe. other one is missing in photos. So that pile of clothes on shelf becomes interesting. Were they originally in missing bag?

[pegasus]

That luggage bag/case is dark enough blue that it might be described by a witness as either blue, or black, IMO, depends on the light conditions.
So IF the sighting of a person with a "black" bag is of the same bag, it was most likely at nighttime.

[Silkywhiskers]

Plainly its cocktail hour in the UK.

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[pegasus]

Plainly its cocktail hour in the UK.

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Well no almond bitters are being consumed here, and I think its good to look into this bag, the one in the photos on 4th and 5th.

[pathfinder73]

That luggage bag/case is dark enough blue that it might be described by a witness as either blue, or black, IMO, depends on the light conditions.
So IF the sighting of a person with a "black" bag is of the same bag, it was most likely at nighttime.

Yes could be. That white bag Emma Knight was carrying the next day isn't seen in any 5A photos. They need to check airport cctv to find that other bag. It needs to be found to confirm whether it's black, white or whatever.

[Benice]

Also according to Grime, Eddie barking near the wardrobe does not mean a cadaverscent originated  at that spot because  it can drift and so could just have drifted there from elsewhere.   But what does he know - he's only the expert.

[slartibartfast]

Also according to Grime, Eddie barking near the wardrobe does not mean a cadaverscent originated  at that spot because  it can drift and so could just have drifted there from elsewhere.   But what does he know - he's only the expert.

Any expert will put caveats around their work. Just because they do that doesn't imply that those caveats are the most likely cause or result.

It's like saying that Aspirin causes cerebral microbleeds just because that is one of the many low probability outcomes.

[Benice]

Any expert will put caveats around their work. Just because they do that doesn't imply that those caveats are the most likely cause or result.

It's like saying that Aspirin causes cerebral microbleeds just because that is one of the many low probability outcomes.

But without corroborating evidence - of which there is none - the info from Grime does invalidate any claim that cadaverscent MUST have originally come from the wardrobe or from anything inside  the wardrobe.     Only 'pure speculation' is possible in that respect IMO.

As far as I am concerned the bag in the wardrobe is not sinister in any way.     Any such bag could easily have been identified by the PJ from amongst the McCanns luggage if necessary.  All the PJ had to do was to show them the photo and ask them to produce that particular bag.    One can only assume that wasn't done.

       

[slartibartfast]

But without corroborating evidence - of which there is none - the info from Grime does invalidate any claim that cadaverscent MUST have originally come from the wardrobe or from anything inside  the wardrobe.     Only 'pure speculation' is possible in that respect IMO.

Hmmm, I agree the MUST is incorrect. It is most likely to have come from somewhere close to the alert.

As far as I am concerned the bag in the wardrobe is not sinister in any way.     Any such bag could easily have been identified by the PJ from amongst the McCanns luggage if necessary.  All the PJ had to do was to show them the photo and ask them to produce that particular bag.    One can only assume that wasn't done.

Not a fan of the bag theory myself.

[AnneGuedes]

Mr Grime says clearly that the first alert (whether VOCs remaining on the spot or brought there by draughts) is not in the cupboard, but in the corner of that cupboard with the wall.