Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?

[Albertini]

Photo from the scene (with caption) on the night of the 3rd May



Then from this article:

Tony Rogers, a former detective with experience with experience of high-profile murder cases, told the channel: "If it's a bag of a size that could be taking away from the flat a child, that would be of great interest to the investigating officer."

But Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for Madeleine's parents, dismissed the report, insisting that Gerry had never owned such a bag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1573575/Gerry-McCanns-tennis-bag-is-focus-of-inquiry.html

This article has also been quoted but i can't see it online (it appears to have been whooshed):

Vanessa Allen reported a story in the Daily Mail on December 25, 2007 "Hunt for Gerry’s missing tennis bag which ‘could have been used to carry Madeleine away’".

In the article, Gerry McCann and Clarence Mitchell were quoted:

    But Mr McCann told friends yesterday that he did not take any tennis equipment to Praia da Luz, and did not own a blue tennis bag.

    McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell flatly denied that Mr McCann had lost a bag during the family’s holiday.

    He said: “As far as Kate and Gerry are concerned, there is no missing tennis bag. They came back from holiday with everything except of course, tragically, Madeleine.”

What did happen to that bag and why did they deny owning one?


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[sadie]

Photo from the scene (with caption) on the night of the 3rd May



Then from this article:

Tony Rogers, a former detective with experience with experience of high-profile murder cases, told the channel: "If it's a bag of a size that could be taking away from the flat a child, that would be of great interest to the investigating officer."

But Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for Madeleine's parents, dismissed the report, insisting that Gerry had never owned such a bag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1573575/Gerry-McCanns-tennis-bag-is-focus-of-inquiry.html

This article has also been quoted but i can't see it online (it appears to have been whooshed):

Vanessa Allen reported a story in the Daily Mail on December 25, 2007 "Hunt for Gerry’s missing tennis bag which ‘could have been used to carry Madeleine away’".

In the article, Gerry McCann and Clarence Mitchell were quoted:

    But Mr McCann told friends yesterday that he did not take any tennis equipment to Praia da Luz, and did not own a blue tennis bag.

    McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell flatly denied that Mr McCann had lost a bag during the family’s holiday.

    He said: “As far as Kate and Gerry are concerned, there is no missing tennis bag. They came back from holiday with everything except of course, tragically, Madeleine.”

What did happen to that bag and why did they deny owning one?

Oh not the tennis bag again!  How trite.

I have seen other pictires of that so called tennis bag, gawd knows where, but I have seen them

That bag is a typical carry on board flight bag...



FGS can someone find a photo of it and burst this silly myth.  Purleeaze

[DCI]

Here you go, Sadie, you can see the silver tag, on the bag 



The other pic, making that a tennis bag, Gerry didn't have, is from Marsdens book 

[sadie]

Here you go, Sadie, you can see the silver tag, on the bag 



The other pic, making that a tennis bag, Gerry didn't have, is from Marsdens book 

Thanks DCI.  You are brilliant


Now purleeaze, lets put the tennis bag myth to sleep .

[stephen25000]

Thanks DCI.  You are brilliant


Now purleeaze, lets put the tennis bag myth to sleep .

What does this picture prove ?

Oh there's a bag in it.

[sadie]

What does this picture prove ?

Oh there's a bag in it.

Yep, an on board flight bag. 

So do you think that Madeleine would have fitted in that?

Let's have some sensible constructive debate please Stephen

[sadie]

BUMPED

Abuse expected and ignored

Yep, an on board flight bag. 

So do you think that Madeleine would have fitted in that?

Let's have some sensible constructive debate please Stephen

Do you. Stephen, think that Madeleine would have fitted in that bag

[stephen25000]

BUMPED

Abuse expected and ignored

Do you. Stephen, think that Madeleine would have fitted in that bag

How do you know this is the bag referred to ?

[sadie]

How do you know this is the bag referred to ?

Are you suggesting tha Gerry packed a big tennis bag?

[Redblossom]

The bag in the wardrobe looks too big and bulkier ( by sight and judging by the space it packs in the wardrobe shelf height and depth) than the handbag with the white/grey vertical patches. The metal tag of one is horizontal, the other diagonal and looks the tag end of a case zipper. Also both photos were taken on the same night, so different bags IMO. It is most probable the bag in the wardrobe is this one IMO, a suitcase, first picture, view horizontally

[sadie]

The bag in the wardrobe looks too big and bulkier ( by sight and judging by the space it packs in the wardrobe shelf height and depth) than the handbag with the white/grey vertical patches. The metal tag of one is horizontal, the other diagonal and looks the tag end of a case zipper. Also both photos were taken on the same night, so different bags IMO. It is most probable the bag in the wardrobe is this one IMO, a suitcase, first picture, view horizontally

I am open minded about which bag was in the wardrobe, but the one that you show, red could not be described as a tennis bag ... and neither could the other really

Do you think that Gerry packed a tennis bag?

[Redblossom]

I am open minded about which bag was in the wardrobe, but the one that you show, red could not be described as a tennis bag ... and neither could the other really

Do you think that Gerry packed a tennis bag?

What makes you think the handbag is the bag in the wardrobe? What are the similarities apart from colour? Never mind, it doesnt really matter.

Do I think he packed a tennis bag? How would I know?

The source of the missing  tennis bag was Martin Brunt in his documentary of Dec 07, part of which was quoted by Albertini earlier. I reckon some people pieced that together with the photos of the wardrobe and the position of the dog alert,when they came out in 2008 to make that theory, idea,point, comment etc.

Never heard or seen anything from any other source re this. So.....pass.

Eta no, the bag in the wardrobe, which I think is the suitcase is not a tennis bag or sports bag. Too big.

[sadie]

What makes you think the handbag is the bag in the wardrobe? What are the similarities apart from colour? Never mind, it doesnt really matter.

Do I think he packed a tennis bag? How would I know?

The source of the missing  tennis bag was Martin Brunt in his documentary of Dec 07, part of which was quoted by Albertini earlier. I reckon some people pieced that together with the photos of the wardrobe and the position of the dog alert,when they came out in 2008 to make that theory, idea,point, comment etc.

Never heard or seen anything from any other source re this. So.....pass.

Eta no, the bag in the wardrobe, which I think is the suitcase is not a tennis bag or sports bag. Too big.

OK, I will go along with that

Red letter day, Red.  We agree

So seems that the tennis bag is likely a myth.

[Redblossom]

OK, I will go along with that

Red letter day, Red.  We agree

So seems that the tennis bag is likely a myth.

Likely but not definitely

You would have to know who said he had one/corroboration/proof and who said it went missing/corroboration/proof


Just  Clarence Mitchell denying it is not proof because as we know he is a professional l..r by trade

Then again, I suppose anything can be said and denied and no one outside those people is the wiser

IOW unless you can debunk the myth with facts it cant be said its a myth

[DCI]

OK, I will go along with that

Red letter day, Red.  We agree

So seems that the tennis bag is likely a myth.

I'm sure it was Martin Brunt, who first said, he had been told a tennis bag was missing. I wonder by who?..