Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?

[Benice]

But they'll say the objective wasn't at all face saving but keeping high profile for Madeleine to be found ! What will be deduced from those unsuccessful high profile campaigns ?  That the proof is made they are of no use and shouldn't be repeated ? Or that no proof of nothing was achieved because Madeleine has probably gone from that planet 6 years ago ?

Whether you like it or not that is the advice given by the experts and until the McCanns have proof that their daughter is dead they will continue to search for her in the way which has been proved to be the best.

Why on earth would any decent person begrudge them their right to do that?   Surely it is something that every loving parent would have no difficulty in understanding.

[faithlilly]

It is very plain to see that their idea of searching is to farm it out to a third party while they get on with their own lives.  Maybe they should take some lessons from those people who have managed to search for their lost children on a shoe string, namely the Needhams and the Fitzpatricks.

A very good point Angelo. Kerry Needham has only latterly set up a fund to search for Ben. Before she staged bring and buy sales and such to raise money and followed every sighting up herself, travelling to Kos many times to enable her to do this. I'm sure if she was asked what sighting had filled her with the most hope I'm sure she wouldn't have struggled to remember as the McCanns did when asked the same question by a journalist some time ago.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Her parents need to know what has happened to her, whether she is alive or dead. It makes no difference.

They cling to the possibility that she is alive, and frequently voice this opinion, but also know that in pressuring for investigations to continue, they are facing the possibility of learning that she is dead. This is a risk they take because the need to know what has happened is the over-riding factor.

SY, on camera, will always emphasise  the possibility that she is alive, in order to create a sense of sympathy and urgency in the public mind as a justification for the sums being spent. Whether, underneath, this is really what they believe to be the case, we don't know.

[sadie]

I shouild think Chinagirl is exhausted after all her hard work last night.

Well done Chinagirl ... and the other few who stayed up late. 

You all did very well ! 

[faithlilly]

I shouild think Chinagirl is exhausted after all her hard work last night.

Well done Chinagirl ... and the other few who stayed up late. 

You all did very well ! 

Isn't Chinagirl in China ?

[Benice]

But they'll say the objective wasn't at all face saving but keeping high profile for Madeleine to be found ! What will be deduced from those unsuccessful high profile campaigns ?  That the proof is made they are of no use and shouldn't be repeated ? Or that no proof of nothing was achieved because Madeleine has probably gone from that planet 6 years ago ?

If the objective was not to keep Madeleine's profile high then what are you saying their intention was?

Can you also explain how the McCanns could possibly have known in advance - when they first began their campaign to keep Madeleine's profile high -  that six years on  - their daughter would still be missing inspite of all their efforts?.  They could not see into the future.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it Anne.

[AnneGuedes]

Oh but I didn't say what their intention imo was !
So please don't pretend I said what I didn't.

[Benice]

Oh but I didn't say what their intention imo was !
So please don't pretend I said what I didn't.

Exactly - which is why I asked you what IYO you do think their intention was.   Please point out where I have pretended otherwise.

[Luz]

I have been given special permission to start this thread to explore the reasons why the McCanns and Murat were suspected by the Portuguese Police of involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.


I will add that this topic is extremely important to the case given what happened to the parents.  I expect all posters to stick to the facts and refrain from speculations.

Senior Editor
 

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The McCann being made arguido was a normal procedure according to the Portuguese Process Penal Code - only the people that know nothing about it can find it strange - it's a protection when people are interrogated about matters whose responses could incriminate them. Being arguido protects them allowing them to excuse from responding as Kate Healy did.
Murat asked to be made arguido to have the same legal protection.

[Luz]

Kate Healy and Gerald McCann were naturally the first suspects. They achieved by means of diplomatic and PR twists to get away to their Rothley little house, but they are still the primary suspects that "failed to prove what they insisted from the start, their innocence" (Attorney General's Final Report)

[Angelo222]

A very good point Angelo. Kerry Needham has only latterly set up a fund to search for Ben. Before she staged bring and buy sales and such to raise money and followed every sighting up herself, travelling to Kos many times to enable her to do this. I'm sure if she was asked what sighting had filled her with the most hope I'm sure she wouldn't have struggled to remember as the McCanns did when asked the same question by a journalist some time ago.

This is something i will never understand about the McCanns.   I have pointed out on several threads that they have failed to emulate the enormous amount of searching which Ben Needham and Amy Fitzpatrick's parents have undertaken on the ground in Kos and in Spain respectively.   If my daughter had been taken in such circumstances I would not leave a single stone unturned literally until i found out what had happened to her. But then again my name is not Gerry McCann.  I would never put personal ambition and gain before the welfare of my daughter.

[Angelo222]

Kate Healy and Gerald McCann were naturally the first suspects. They achieved by means of diplomatic and PR twists to get away to their Rothley little house, but they are still the primary suspects that "failed to prove what they insisted from the start, their innocence" (Attorney General's Final Report)

It is normal that the last people to have any contact with a disappeared person are usually deemed to be persons of interest in any abduction investigation.  Scotland Yard might well have gone on record to state that the parents are not among the many persons of interest currently being investigated but that does not mean that they are exempt from investigation at a later stage if the evidence points that way.

As pointed out earlier in this thread there are several pieces of evidence which give potential to something other than abduction.  The police were presented with conflicting statements, conflicting evidence and inconclusive results.  They were thwarted and harangued by political interference from the outset all of which is yet to be satisfactorily explained.

Why was the British Prime Minister at the time, Gordon Brown, interfering in this case?

[Luz]

It is normal that the last people to have any contact with a disappeared person are usually deemed to be persons of interest in any abduction investigation.  Scotland Yard might well have gone on record to state that the parents are not among the many persons of interest currently being investigated but that does not mean that they are exempt from investigation at a later stage if the evidence points that way.

As pointed out earlier in this thread there are several pieces of evidence which give potential to something other than abduction.  The police were presented with conflicting statements, conflicting evidence and inconclusive results.  They were thwarted and harangued by political interference from the outset all of which is yet to be satisfactorily explained.

Why was the British Prime Minister at the time, Gordon Brown, interfering in this case?

Thanks Angelo

People have avoided to remember that on children's demise usually the close family are the primary suspects. In this case the efforts to exclude them were so prompt and from so high that we, the portuguese population, and most probably the police felt that a real dirty business was on.
Speaking for myself, I couldn't believe their PR program for the journos just a few days after their daughter was missing.
They would call the journalists to make pics at a certain time and had the inhabitants forbidden on certain streets with the help of the mayor. It was nauseating.
While they were parading to the cams the portuguese that had taken time from their jobs and the ex-pats were searching the fields.
I have no links, I watched this.

I've told this before, but people didn't believe me.
They held hands only for the pics, as soon as they were off the cams they went separated like unrelated persons. They act and that acting will end some day.

[Angelo222]

Luz...we have a saying here in England...it is a long road which has no turning.

[sadie]

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The McCann being made arguido was a normal procedure according to the Portuguese Process Penal Code - only the people that know nothing about it can find it strange - it's a protection when people are interrogated about matters whose responses could incriminate them. Being arguido protects them allowing them to excuse from responding as Kate Healy did.
Murat asked to be made arguido to have the same legal protection.

Cite please Luz, for Murat asking to be made atguido