Why Madeleine ?

[stephen25000]

Why not?  It would be a couple without children who would be more likely to steal a child.

So why not 'steal' Madeleine's younger sister. Far more easy to carry and she would have fewer memories of her family ?

[Eleanor]

So why not 'steal' Madeleine's younger sister. Far more easy to carry and she would have fewer memories of her family ?

Do stop asking the same old silly questions.

[faithlilly]

Do stop asking the same old silly questions.

Until the question is adequately answered I think the question remains important.

[sadie]

Until the question is adequately answered I think the question remains important.

Madeleine was selected, Faith.  She was wanted.  Almost certainly

[faithlilly]

Madeleine was selected, Faith.  She was wanted.  Almost certainly

Almost certainly ? Why ?

[Rachel Granada]

Folks, I have given a lot of thought to this question of "Why Madeleine".

IMO, the abductor got spooked and just grabbed Madeleine.

[stephen25000]

Do stop asking the same old silly questions.

Silly, NO.

Logical ,YES.

[sadie]

Almost certainly ? Why ?

Because she was the chosen one.

And she followed on from Carolina Santos. 



Another pretty little fair haired girl who was abducted only about 18 miles away in Silves.  That abduction was frustrated by the parents noticing that she had vanished off the pavement outside their cafe/bar and calling her back as she was being walked off, hand in hand, with the abductor.

Like Madeleine she was 3 years old ... and this frustrated attempt was less than 5 months before Madeleine was abducted... just 18 miles away

[stephen25000]

Because she was the chosen one.

And she followed on from Carolina Santos. 



Another pretty little fair haired girl who was abducted only about 18 miles away in Silves.  That abduction was frustrated by the parents noticing that she had vanished off the pavement outside their cafe/bar and calling her back as she was being walked off, hand in hand, with the abductor.

Like Madeleine she was 3 years old ... and this frustrated attempt was less than 5 months before Madeleine was abducted... just 18 miles away

The chosen one ????????????????

You are sounding like Nigel Nessling.

[sadie]

The chosen one ????????????????

You are sounding like Nigel Nessling.

Well I am not Nigel, I assure you.  Met him at Bennetts trial.  Really nice guy.  Heart in the right place and has put his soul into working on the case too.

Madeleine was selected/chosen because someone was looking for a pretty little fair haired 3 year old.  This was only after the failed attempt at taking Carolina Santos, another pretty little fair haired 3 year old.



That attempted abduction was less than 5 months before and only about 18 miles from PdL

[stephen25000]

Well I am not Nigel, I assure you.  Met him at Bennetts trial.  Really nice guy.  Heart in the right place and has put his soul into working on the case too.

Madeleine was selected/chosen because someone was looking for a pretty little fair haired 3 year old.  This was only after the failed attempt at taking Carolina Santos, another pretty little fair haired 3 year old.



That attempted abduction was less than 5 months before and only about 18 miles from PdL

That doesn't prove Madeleine was abducted ?

How many other children were in that area at the time, and were young 'blonde haired' girls ?

[Lace]

Stephen how often do you hear on the news here in Britain,  when there is an attempted abduction of a child, the words -   

This hasn't been the first attempt to abduct a child in this area, a car similar to the one seen at the recent attempt of abduction was seen last week when a man tried to seduce a child into the car.

Now similar words to that are heard frequently on the news here in Britain.

So I would think the attempted abduction of that little girl that Sadie has enlightened us about is very relevant.

Someone tried to abduct this little fair haired girl more or less the same age as Madeleine,  only five months before Madeleine was taken.

Why doesn't this make an abduction more plausible for you?

[sadie]

That doesn't prove Madeleine was abducted ?

How many other children were in that area at the time, and were young 'blonde haired' girls ?

Of course it doesn't but it is a pointer that should not be ignored

If you remember Stephen, early on in this forum, I went over the eight stranger abductions of pre pubescent (under 15 y.o.) children in PT.  All eight of them either fell in the Porto area or in the PDL/Lagos area.  There was a bunch of 4 of them in an area of 32 miles across in the Porto area and a bunch of 4 of them (including Carolina) in the Lagos area in an area no more than about 25 miles across.

NO other stranger abductions of pre pubescent children in the whole of mainland PT.  Pt is not as big as England but it is well over half the size, so two little clumps of abductions, alone in that vast area. 

One clump, 32 miles across, in Porto in the period 1991 to 1999 + an odd abduction in the Algarve region in 1996.

Then there was a break of 5 years before it all started up again.  This time 300 miles away from Porto, in the Algarve centred, more or less, on Lagos /PdL. 

1)  Joana Cipriano in Sept. 2004 and only 7 miles from PdL
2)  Carolina Santos on 25th  Dec. 2006, and only about 18 miles from PdL  .... but this abduction was frustrated and Carolina was saved.

This man had been needing/ wanting a child every 2 years on average and Carolinas abduction didn't finalise in his favour.

Madeleine was taken under 5 months later after the Carolina attempt ... and 2 years and 7 months after Joana disappeared.

The Historical pattern is there in the Algarve, as it had been in the Porto region

[sadie]

The reason for the five year break in the middle?  According to a forum that i read, the PJ  picked up a man in , or near, Porto in 1999/2000.  The son of an elite, he was interrogated  and IIRC was charged (not absolutely sure of that ... possibly made an Arguido).  However, according to this forum, he was released with just a warning.  I wonder who was important enough to (aparantly from this posters words) pull strings to get him off?

Everything was whooshed about this forum post as soon as i mentioned it, on a Madeleine forum.  Someone reading must have wioped it out.

Catkins, in her research, also found stuff about this man who was let of with just a warning.


So historically stephen, here we have a series of abductions that had moved from Porto to the Algarve ... and this man was overdue with his wanting a child.

[sadie]

1)  These facts are not proof af an abduction, but are a damned strong pointer.
2)  With Jane Tanners witnessing the abduction
3)  Caroline Carpenters audio evidence
4)  The Smiths sighting ...
5) and 6)  SY and the AG saying that they do not think The Mccanns guilty of any criminal acts
7)  The fact that Amaral and many many of his officers are Arguidos or have been found as criminals
8)  The Mccanns and associates have an absolutely clean sheet
9)  There is visual and witness evidence of their love for their children
10)  ...and everything else ...


.....I am staggered that you, Stephen, a man who professes to support Madeleine, cannot see the significance of all these things


... and at least have a question mark in your mind.