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Offline faithlilly

Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« on: August 18, 2013, 01:59:26 PM »
Arguido statement of Gerry McCann :

'He ( Gerry ) states that since the twins were born, he and Kate have gone out at night only once, leaving the children with relatives.'

Statement of Hailey Jane Plummer : '

'As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour'
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 02:43:06 PM »
Arguido statement of Gerry McCann :

'He ( Gerry ) states that since the twins were born, he and Kate have gone out at night only once, leaving the children with relatives.'

Statement of Hailey Jane Plummer : '

'As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour'



there is probably a very simple explanation

Offline sadie

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 02:57:33 PM »
I dont trust anything to do with what happened at that Arguido meeting.  Not after Amaral / the PJ lied to gerry and told him that Madeleines DNA, or whatever was in that hire car.  A car that Madeleine hadn't even been near and hired weeks later.

What appalling behaviour for a Police Force ...  to blattently lie like that.



The Arguido statement cannot be trusted.  Ignore it.


Offline faithlilly

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 03:17:13 PM »
I dont trust anything to do with what happened at that Arguido meeting.  Not after Amaral / the PJ lied to gerry and told him that Madeleines DNA, or whatever was in that hire car.  A car that Madeleine hadn't even been near and hired weeks later.

What appalling behaviour for a Police Force ...  to blattently lie like that.



The Arguido statement cannot be trusted.  Ignore it.

Gerry signed it as a true representation of what had transpired and you certainly believe the part that details the PJ's 'lies' so why not this part ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 03:31:48 PM »
So Hayley's boyfriend is Kate's cousin, you missed that bit off Faith!

I got to know Madeleine and her parents Kate and Gerry at the nursery school. I also spent time with them socially because my boyfriend James is Kates cousin. As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour. The routine followed would be to brush her teeth and tell her a story or two before going to sleep, followed by a brief passage through the twins room. Once she was alone Madeleine would generally fall asleep after 10 minutes and during my stays in their house she would never get out of bed after having fallen asleep. She would always sleep in her room. I do not remember Madeleine having been difficult when we were there.

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Offline Lace

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2013, 03:36:41 PM »
Arguido statement of Gerry McCann :

'He ( Gerry ) states that since the twins were born, he and Kate have gone out at night only once, leaving the children with relatives.'

Statement of Hailey Jane Plummer : '

'As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour'

I would take that to mean that they have only gone out at night once and left Madeleine with relatives once since the twins were born.


The fact that other times the couple came to the house to baby sit.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2013, 03:42:05 PM »
So Hayley's boyfriend is Kate's cousin, you missed that bit off Faith!

I got to know Madeleine and her parents Kate and Gerry at the nursery school. I also spent time with them socially because my boyfriend James is Kates cousin. As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour. The routine followed would be to brush her teeth and tell her a story or two before going to sleep, followed by a brief passage through the twins room. Once she was alone Madeleine would generally fall asleep after 10 minutes and during my stays in their house she would never get out of bed after having fallen asleep. She would always sleep in her room. I do not remember Madeleine having been difficult when we were there.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY_PLUMBER.htm

Was it relevant ?  It doesn't change the anomaly within the two statements.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2013, 03:43:41 PM »
I would take that to mean that they have only gone out at night once and left Madeleine with relatives once since the twins were born.


The fact that other times the couple came to the house to baby sit.

Hailey's boyfriend was a relative.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 03:47:27 PM »
Hailey's boyfriend was a relative.

What they are saying is that Madeleine usually stayed in the house when they went out.   They only left her at relatives once.

What difference does this make anyway Faithfully?

Offline Angelo222

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2013, 03:56:28 PM »
Arguido statement of Gerry McCann :

'He ( Gerry ) states that since the twins were born, he and Kate have gone out at night only once, leaving the children with relatives.'

Statement of Hailey Jane Plummer : '

'As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour'

Well found Faith  8@??)(      Yet another instance of the truth being twisted.
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Offline sadie

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2013, 04:04:56 PM »
Well found Faith  8@??)(      Yet another instance of the truth being twisted.

How about you pouncing on the [ censored word] when they keep twisting the truth?

Offline Carana

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 04:08:46 PM »
What was the exact question put to Gerry?

Offline sadie

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2013, 04:10:28 PM »
I dont trust anything to do with what happened at that Arguido meeting.  Not after Amaral / the PJ lied to gerry and told him that Madeleines DNA, or whatever was in that hire car.  A car that Madeleine hadn't even been near and hired weeks later.

What appalling behaviour for a Police Force ...  to blattently lie like that.



The Arguido statement cannot be trusted.  Ignore it.

Two reasons why this account doesn't hold water

1)  The above.  You cant trust anything that came from that lying Arguido meeting.  Especially the arguido statement

2)  Gerry Mccann signed a statement, was it written in Portuguese? ... he signed it when he was dazed by the appalling lies of the PJ.  His mind must have been reeling as he realised that they were prepared to stitch him and Kate up with lies. 

How long had he been there being interrogated ?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2013, 04:10:41 PM »
How about you pouncing on the [ censored word] when they keep twisting the truth?

The 'anti' as you call us don't have a missing child we're supposedly trying to find.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: Can Anyone See a Problem With These Statements ?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2013, 04:14:19 PM »
Well found Faith  8@??)(      Yet another instance of the truth being twisted.

Twisted?   How?

They are saying they only left Madeleine with relatives once since the twins were born.

Madeleine by the look of it was usually baby sat in the house by the couple.