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Offline sadie

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #135 on: August 25, 2013, 04:09:28 PM »
My point was only your suggestion of deliberate mistakes you didn't recall, nothing more. I was rather curious to learn how you would eventually infer the deliberate aspect of the mistake.
Chinagirl's umpteenth remark about the "disastrous" translations just remembered me of your lack of reaction in two precise recent cases.
Now the issue is not to comment there are mistakes in the translations, nobody being perfect that's obvious, the issue is to point them and try to have them corrected.
The example that I have proof of was very deliberately changed.  It wasn't an accident.  A minor change, but it made a small but significant difference to the meaning.

I cannot share ... sorry.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #136 on: August 25, 2013, 04:23:13 PM »
I'm precisely criticizing this, Sadie. Either you say it, arguing properly, or you keep silent. Spreading doubts is unacceptable, there are sufficient ones in this case.

Offline sadie

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #137 on: August 25, 2013, 05:02:07 PM »
I'm precisely criticizing this, Sadie. Either you say it, arguing properly, or you keep silent. Spreading doubts is unacceptable, there are sufficient ones in this case.
There are no doubts Anne, but I cannot share cos it might be ex judicy.  It's with SY atm. as is another document which lies. 

Casting my mind over it again, both the ?deliberate lie and the minor change are on the same document.  The lie has, I believe, stood since the document was written; the minor change which slightly alters the meaning has only stood for about 3 years



You either believe me, or you dont .  That is up to you

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #138 on: August 25, 2013, 05:07:44 PM »
There are no doubts Anne, but I cannot share cos it might be ex judicy.  It's with SY atm, as is another document which lies.

You either believe me, or you dont .  That is up to you

Are you insinuating that one of the translators is involved and mistranslated in order to obstuficate ? 
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #139 on: August 25, 2013, 05:11:04 PM »
My point was only your suggestion of deliberate mistakes you didn't recall, nothing more. I was rather curious to learn how you would eventually infer the deliberate aspect of the mistake.
Chinagirl's umpteenth remark about the "disastrous" translations just remembered me of your lack of reaction in two precise recent cases.
Now the issue is not to comment there are mistakes in the translations, nobody being perfect that's obvious, the issue is to point them and try to have them corrected.

This was your original accusation against me: "Couldn't you, instead of just accusing X of Y, try to recall those deliberate mistranslations, justify your point and correct mistakes that could mislead readers ?"

Could you provide links to substantiate that accusation against me?

Otherwise, I'll assume that your accusation was an emotional outburst for some reason best known to yourself. In which case, I suggest that we return to the topic under discussion, which is "The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice."
« Last Edit: August 25, 2013, 05:14:15 PM by Carana »

Offline sadie

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #140 on: August 25, 2013, 05:11:45 PM »
Are you insinuating that one of the translators is involved and mistranslated in order to obstuficate ?

I haven't implicated anyone.  That is for SY to work out if they wish

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #141 on: August 25, 2013, 05:18:49 PM »
I haven't implicated anyone.  That is for SY to work out if they wish

But that is the only reason you would have alerted SY to the error. So YOU think a translator has mistranslated one small part of a document and YOU believe that somehow that points to them being involved ?

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #142 on: August 25, 2013, 05:23:34 PM »
But that is the only reason you would have alerted SY to the error. So YOU think a translator has mistranslated one small part of a document and YOU believe that somehow that points to them being involved ?
I am not being drawn, but there is a major error in one of the documents (in I believe it's original state) and there was a very minor change made about three years ago, which slightly changed the sense of the document.  I have several hard copies of this document in both its states.  Pre 3 years ago and since.

That is all you will hear from me on the subject

As I said, believe it or not.  It is up to you.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2013, 05:26:42 PM »
I am not being drawn, but there is a major error in one of the documents (in I believe it's original state) and there was a very minor change made about three years ago, which slightly changed the sense of the document.  I have several hard copies of this document in both its states.  Pre 3 years ago and since.

That is all you will hear from me on the subject

As I said, believe it or not.  It is up to you.

So the major error is in an original document, not the translation ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?


Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2013, 05:56:55 PM »
I am not being drawn Faith.  Possibly ex judicy.

No matter sadie. I'll assume your talking nonsense and if past experience is anything to go by then I'm more than likely right.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #146 on: August 25, 2013, 06:12:25 PM »
No matter sadie. I'll assume your talking nonsense and if past experience is anything to go by then I'm more than likely right.

Par for the course faith.

Throw out the insults and abuse.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #147 on: August 25, 2013, 06:39:51 PM »
Par for the course faith.

Throw out the insults and abuse.

No insults or abuse sadie, merely stating facts.

Have you and your ilk ever thought that maybe you are actually impeding the work of SY, and therefore their ability to find Madeleine, by obliging them to follow up ridiculous 'theories' like yours ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #148 on: August 25, 2013, 07:05:26 PM »
No insults or abuse sadie, merely stating facts.

Have you and your ilk ever thought that maybe you are actually impeding the work of SY, and therefore their ability to find Madeleine, by obliging them to follow up ridiculous 'theories' like yours ?
You think it is ridiculous, but others think not including Angelo.  He said that it could be right  .... and Icabod didn't challenge it.  Just you and Red and Stephen and, I think Anne set about trying to destroy it.

I make no pretence; it is only a theory, but it all fits ... and perfectly.


However the theories and FACTS that I have sent them are new.  None of my theories here has gone to them as far as I can remember.

And it is all original .. based heavily on FACTS.  Never seen on the internet.

I know that it might not be totally right, but there is a mighty jigsaw of pieces that fit together.  I also know that if I have accidentally put a piece of the jigsaw in upside down, then I could be wrong on certain aspects.


Oh and SY are listening to me despite somebody having poisoned my name,by saying that I am a psychic.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #149 on: August 25, 2013, 10:25:49 PM »
You think it is ridiculous, but others think not including Angelo.  He said that it could be right  .... and Icabod didn't challenge it.  Just you and Red and Stephen and, I think Anne set about trying to destroy it.

I make no pretence; it is only a theory, but it all fits ... and perfectly.


However the theories and FACTS that I have sent them are new.  None of my theories here has gone to them as far as I can remember.

And it is all original .. based heavily on FACTS.  Never seen on the internet.

I know that it might not be totally right, but there is a mighty jigsaw of pieces that fit together.  I also know that if I have accidentally put a piece of the jigsaw in upside down, then I could be wrong on certain aspects.


Oh and SY are listening to me despite somebody having poisoned my name,by saying that I am a psychic.

I'm sorry to have to be the one to break it to you sadie but SY are not listening to you. They are taking the information proffered, smiling sweetly and filing it in the receptacle marked 'bin'. If you thnk otherwise then I'm afraid you're deluding yourself.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?