The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.

[Chinagirl]

Chinagirl's umpteenth remark about the "disastrous" translations just remembered me of your lack of reaction in two precise recent cases.

My point is made, I think ....
 

[sadie]

I'm sorry to have to be the one to break it to you sadie but SY are not listening to you. They are taking the information proffered, smiling sweetly and filing it in the receptacle marked 'bin'. If you thnk otherwise then I'm afraid you're deluding yourself.

Oh yeah!

[AnneGuedes]

Quote from: Carana on August 25, 2013, 11:07:36 AM
 I haven't found any indication as to who arranged the translation of the prosecutor's letter to the T7, but "offender" was even less correct in context.
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Do you mean you haven't found the name of the translator or haven't found the translation itself ?
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Carana, you didn't answer about the lack of indication concerning the offending use of offender.

[AnneGuedes]

Anne, on another pending topic... have you found a source for 13 markers in the US and France as being sufficient for legal purposes on paternity?

Carana, you first mentioned a translation of "arguido" by "offender" in a MP letter to the McCanns that upset Mr O'Brien.
Then you said you "hadn't found any indication as to who arranged the translation of the prosecutor's letter to the T7, but "offender" was even less correct in context."
I asked whether you hadn't found the name of the translator or the letter itself with the erroneous translation.
If you didn't find that MP letter to the McCanns, how do you know about the "offender" ?
Do you read French ?

[AnneGuedes]

Carana, could you please answer to the pending topic above ?

[Jean-Pierre]

Carana, you first mentioned a translation of "arguido" by "offender" in a MP letter to the McCanns that upset Mr O'Brien.
Then you said you "hadn't found any indication as to who arranged the translation of the prosecutor's letter to the T7, but "offender" was even less correct in context."
I asked whether you hadn't found the name of the translator or the letter itself with the erroneous translation.
If you didn't find that MP letter to the McCanns, how do you know about the "offender" ?
Do you read French ?

The PJ seemed to use bystanders such as Murat as an interpreter in police interviews (which is unbelievable).  So maybe they used the same in translations of documents. 

Oui, bien sur.  Pourquoi?

[DCI]

The PJ seemed to use bystanders such as Murat as an interpreter in police interviews (which is unbelievable).  So maybe they used the same in translations of documents. 

Oui, bien sur.  Pourquoi?

And, Sylvia Batista, maintenance manager of the OC.

[AnneGuedes]

The letter was sent by the Ministério Publico.

[AnneGuedes]

 

Reply #89 on: August 24, 2013, 06:58:36 PM »

Carana :
And what would appear to be yet another mistranslation of arguido as "offender" might explain Russell's horrified reaction regarding the reconstruction:

Furthermore, we think it is hard to imagine a productive return to Portugal whilst Kate and Gerry remain arguidos. Secondly, the Prosecutor astonishingly referring to them as 'offenders' in their letter implies they are already considered to be guilty, and will be treated as such by the police and press. Furthermore the leaking of the date even before your email completely contradicts the letter's pretence to secrecy for the re-enactment.

Translating arguido as defendant prior to any arrest or charge was bad enough, but "offender" really takes the biscuit...

Carana, I asked you if you had seen the offending translation that made, at least in part, Mr O'Brien refuse to participate in the reconstruction.
You haven't answer. Shall I deduce that this is in fact a pretext invented by Mr O'Brien or given to him by Mr McCann ? Or is it a biscuit as you call it ?

[Carana]

The question seems to have been moved to a different thread.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2142.15

[AnneGuedes]

This thread is on paternity tests.
The question is just above, Carana. If you don't feel like to answer, please say so.

[DCI]

This thread is on paternity tests.
The question is just above, Carana. If you don't feel like to answer, please say so.

It isn't, its

Re: The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.

You need the link Carana posted, above.

[AnneGuedes]

Are you kidding ?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2142.15
 Topic: DNA markers in paternity tests versus evidence in criminal cases.

[AnneGuedes]

useless

[Carana]

There's no reason why this post of Carana should be in the paternity thread where besides it is still on this thread !
 The 'arguido' interviews and the impact of lawyers advice.
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2013, 06:58:36 PM »

Don't ask me... Mods decided that the discussion should have been split. I was simply trying to respect that decision and have replied on the other thread.