The Tavares de Almeida torture conviction and its relevance to the case of Madeleine McCann.

[misty]

'alleged'.

Key word.

Reporter language. Interpret as you will, suing not an option.

[stephen25000]

Your devout worship of the despicable ex-cop is only exceeded by your contempt for innocent parents who only did what hundreds of other parents have done & continue to do. That you favour an institution which prefers torturing suspects to solve a case
rather than the correct path to justice almost beggars belief on a justice forum
The libel trial is what it is, 5 years down the line. There will be no winner.
Where is Madeleine? Follow the money.

Now where have  heard that phrase before about Amaral ?   

Madeleine's parents are responsible for what they did in leaving their children unprotected and unsafe.

As to following the money, well you got that right.

The McCann's have being doing that from the beginning.  %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

[Anna]

Off topic posts will be deleted, so please try and stay with the topic of the thread. Thank you

[misty]

Now where have  heard that phrase before about Amaral ?   

Madeleine's parents are responsible for what they did in leaving their children unprotected and unsafe.

As to following the money, well you got that right.

The McCann's have being doing that from the beginning.  %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

I take it from your response you'd have been quite happy for TdA & his team to have tortured a confession out of the first available fall-guy. Of course, in the sceptics world, that would have been the McCanns fault too.

[misty]

I'm waiting for you to display at least an equal level of contempt for the PJ officers, who use torture to "solve" crime, as you do for the McCanns & their "neglect".
But then, I do live in Fantasyland.
 

[faithlilly]

I'm waiting for you to display at least an equal level of contempt for the PJ officers, who use torture to "solve" crime, as you do for the McCanns & their "neglect".
But then, I do live in Fantasyland.

If any police officer has been proven to use torture to solve a crime then he deserves to be called to account but that didn't happen in this case. None of the three arguidos were maltreated and we have only a Daily Star article which contains no direct quotes from Malinka with which to substantiate  the ' torture' claim.

[misty]

If any police officer has been proven to use torture to solve a crime then he deserves to be called to account but that didn't happen in this case. None of the three arguidos were maltreated and we have only a Daily Star article which contains no direct quotes from Malinka with which to substantiate  the ' torture' claim.

All 3 arguidos had lawyers with them during their interviews.
Malinka was only interviewed as a witness & didn't have a lawyer.

[faithlilly]

All 3 arguidos had lawyers with them during their interviews.
Malinka was only interviewed as a witness & didn't have a lawyer.

So do you have a direct quote from Malinka accusing the PJ of maltreating him ?

[misty]

So do you have a direct quote from Malinka accusing the PJ of maltreating him ?

No. Just as most of the contents of statements contained in the PJ files online cannot be classed as direct quotes.

[faithlilly]

No. Just as most of the contents of statements contained in the PJ files online cannot be classed as direct quotes.

The statements in the files are signed by the witnesses as a true record of what they said.

I'm afraid a Daily Star article does not have to conform to the same rigid procedure.

[Brietta]

No. Just as most of the contents of statements contained in the PJ files online cannot be classed as direct quotes.

Possibly why the McCanns and Operation Grange are using professionally translated from the original documents;  a necessity when one considers the differing expertise and bias of the original volunteer translators.

[faithlilly]

Possibly why the McCanns and Operation Grange are using professionally translated from the original documents;  a necessity when one considers the differing expertise and bias of the original volunteer translators.

It's unfortunate that most of the faithful are little Englanders with little knowledge of languages other than their own or they could have translated the files for themselves and therefore guaranteed their accuracy.

[misty]

Possibly why the McCanns and Operation Grange are using professionally translated from the original documents;  a necessity when one considers the differing expertise and bias of the original volunteer translators.

Exactly. Witness to interpreter, to man clunking on typewriter, back to interpreter, back to witness. Signature required.
That's a direct quote in the world of the sceptics.

[Alice Purjorick]

Possibly why the McCanns and Operation Grange are using professionally translated from the original documents;  a necessity when one considers the differing expertise and bias of the original volunteer translators.

Being a bear of very little brain I become confused and need to have things explained in words of one syllable.
Are you suggesting that the McCanns and The Met had documents relating to the Tavares de Almeida torture conviction translated professionally?
That is the topic of this thread after all.
Why would they do that?

[Brietta]

Exactly. Witness to interpreter, to man clunking on typewriter, back to interpreter, back to witness. Signature required.
That's a direct quote in the world of the sceptics.

The statements were not verbatim.

The British rogatory statements giving a record of question and answer are as different as night and day; and an audio or video record helps too.