The Tavares de Almeida torture conviction and its relevance to the case of Madeleine McCann.

[misty]

It's unfortunate that most of the faithful are little Englanders with little knowledge of languages other than their own or they could have translated the files for themselves and therefore guaranteed their accuracy.

GCE's in Portuguese weren't an option when I was at school. I doubt that many schools have the option now either.
Foresight is a wonderful ability to have - rather like hindsight.

[Brietta]

Being a bear of very little brain I become confused and need to have things explained in words of one syllable.
Are you suggesting that the McCanns and The Met had documents relating to the Tavares de Almeida torture conviction translated professionally?
That is the topic of this thread after all.
Why would they do that?

Fear not ... the mods will sort us out in due course as you no doubt can attest considering the amount of OT you are prone to.

[Alice Purjorick]

Fear not ... the mods will sort us out in due course as you no doubt can attest considering the amount of OT you are prone to.

True but the ones where I really do hit the mark are left standing 
Well it is only play when all is said and done and I just love OT especially at time and a half and double bubble on Sundays.

(I apologise Anna but my baser instincts will out on occasion).

[faithlilly]

GCE's in Portuguese weren't an option when I was at school. I doubt that many schools have the option now either.
Foresight is a wonderful ability to have - rather like hindsight.

So no Portuguese speakers among the McCanns millions of supporters then ?

[misty]

So no Portuguese speakers among the McCanns millions of supporters then ?

No idea, Faithlilly. I'm a lone operator.

[faithlilly]

No idea, Faithlilly. I'm a lone operator.

Of course you are Misy 

[misty]

Of course you are Misy 

There are a few sceptics on here who know I am %£&)**#

[stephen25000]

I'm waiting for you to display at least an equal level of contempt for the PJ officers, who use torture to "solve" crime, as you do for the McCanns & their "neglect".
But then, I do live in Fantasyland.

Well you clearly have been spending time in fantasyland.

I have done that before on this forum.

No excuse for torture.

From whhatewver police force uses it.

However, are you that naive to think any  potential torturer gives a monkeys what people think on here ?

[Benice]

So what is the relevance? What are you accusing them of doing?

Trying to frame the McCanns - Kate in particular. imo.

Their main aim IMO  - as shown in previous cases was to get a conviction  - one way or another.  Whether the person THEY decided was guilty was actually guilty or not -  was not important IMO. 

They were crooked policemen - who approved of torture as a means of 'solving' a case.     How anyone can defend policemen with that mindset is beyond my comprehension.    Corrupt policemen are the lowest of the low IMO.

[stephen25000]

Trying to frame the McCanns - Kate in particular. imo.

Their main aim IMO  - as shown in previous cases was to get a conviction  - one way or another.  Whether the person THEY decided was guilty was actually guilty or not -  was not important IMO. 

They were crooked policemen - who approved of torture as a means of 'solving' a case.     How anyone can defend policemen with that mindset is beyond my comprehension.    Corrupt policemen are the lowest of the low IMO.

Ah, the old framing myth.

Rolled out far too many times.

Boring.

[pathfinder73]

Trying to frame the McCanns - Kate in particular. imo.

Their main aim IMO  - as shown in previous cases was to get a conviction  - one way or another.  Whether the person THEY decided was guilty was actually guilty or not -  was not important IMO. 

They were crooked policemen - who approved of torture as a means of 'solving' a case.     How anyone can defend policemen with that mindset is beyond my comprehension.    Corrupt policemen are the lowest of the low IMO.

Eddie also alerted to Adrian Prout. He later confessed after pleading he was innocent all along. You don't fool the dogs. SY will end up at the same conclusion. New forensics may provide them with the evidence they need to finally put this case to bed.

[Benice]

Eddie also alerted to Adrian Prout. He later confessed after pleading he was innocent all along. You don't fool the dogs. SY will end up at the same conclusion. New forensics may provide them with the evidence they need to finally put this case to bed.

I have no idea what relevance your above post has to my post about corrupt policemen who think using torture to 'solve' a case is an acceptable part of policework.

[Carana]

"The McCanns knew that I was going to catch them", 20 October 2008
Moita Flores interviews Gonçalo Amaral TV Guia (no online link, appears in paper edition only)
 
Interview: 02 October 2008, Published: Satruday 18 October 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation

Interesting snippet about PJ old-guard mentality:

MF – Things were different in my time. She would have been under such an attack that before she realised anything, she'd be in jail.
GA – Right, but in your time, in our old times, investigation was made with fuel. Now we all move on honey. Apart from that, this is a process that is uncomfortable for everyone. Nicely archived, nice and quiet, that's how it looks better. Everyone was happy.

[faithlilly]

"The McCanns knew that I was going to catch them", 20 October 2008
Moita Flores interviews Gonçalo Amaral TV Guia (no online link, appears in paper edition only)
 
Interview: 02 October 2008, Published: Satruday 18 October 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation

Interesting snippet about PJ old-guard mentality:

MF – Things were different in my time. She would have been under such an attack that before she realised anything, she'd be in jail.
GA – Right, but in your time, in our old times, investigation was made with fuel. Now we all move on honey. Apart from that, this is a process that is uncomfortable for everyone. Nicely archived, nice and quiet, that's how it looks better. Everyone was happy.

I suspect the PJ were much like the UK police at that time.

[Alfred R Jones]

It's unfortunate that most of the faithful are little Englanders with little knowledge of languages other than their own or they could have translated the files for themselves and therefore guaranteed their accuracy.

*&*%£   Isn't it fortunate however that virtually all "sceptics" are men and women of such high standing, intelligence and linguistic ability that each has been able to read the files in their original language without recourse once to google translate. you only have to look at the 20 or so thousand geniuses (genii?) on the biggest "sceptic" facebook page to see how blessed are their number.