A look at the various alleged sightings of Madeleine.

[sadie]

The photo of the cart Sadie referred to in her last post.  Going to catch a flight Sadie??

More like moving house for a while in order to do some harvesting.

Just one thing, Angelo. have you been to Morroco?   Cos three of those women are dressed seriously smartly for Moroccan women. 

Somewhere there used to be a normal sized image of the tiny image you have shown within the larger photograph ... and on that you will see that there are at least 3 suitcases on the trolley + a carry on bag.

If you enlarge the tiny image ....
view
zoom
400%
.....you will see the suitcases clearly
 
You will also see that the first woman is carrying what looks like a suitcase from her shoulder
and  ... The woman in black is carrying a suitcase complete with luggage label
They were all dressed up with their bags and they were going somewhere special ... and for a length of time.



Tetouan international airport is about 17 miles away by road.   The port of Cueta is a further 25 miles past there .same road 



Cueta is a tiny part of Spain in Morocco.  Like we have a tiny bit of Spain called Gibraltar.  The two places face each other across the Straits .... and Cueta in Morocco is known for having very poor border controls


Now there was a very convincing sighting very near Cueta by a Spanish Moroccan doctor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491459/Six-months-Madeleine-Is-Moroccan-village-holds-key-disappearence.html

Some reports say they were spotted in the market place.  Could Madeleine have been brought into Cueta from some other country, then thru the poor border control into Morocco and when sighted have been stocking up with stuff at Fnideq, the very first place into Morocco.  Morocco is cheap.


Only thoughts but there is more that seems to link

Some other time maybe .......

[icabodcrane]

Just one thing, Angelo. have you been to Morroco?   Cos three of those women are dressed seriously smartly for Moroccan women. 

Somewhere there used to be a normal sized image of the tiny image you have shown within the larger photograph ... and on that you will see that there are at least 3 suitcases on the trolley + a carry on bag.

If you enlarge the tiny image ....
view
zoom
400%
.....you will see the suitcases clearly
 
You will also see that the first woman is carrying what looks like a suitcase from her shoulder
and  ... The woman in black is carrying a suitcase complete with luggage label
They were all dressed up with their bags and they were going somewhere special ... and for a length of time.



Tetouan international airport is about 17 miles away by road.   The port of Cueta is a further 25 miles past there .same road 



Cueta is a tiny part of Spain in Morocco.  Like we have a tiny bit of Spain called Gibraltar.  The two places face each other across the Straits .... and Cueta in Morocco is known for having very poor border controls


Now there was a very convincing sighting very near Cueta by a Spanish Moroccan doctor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491459/Six-months-Madeleine-Is-Moroccan-village-holds-key-disappearence.html

Some reports say they were spotted in the market place.  Could Madeleine have been brought into Cueta from some other country, then thru the poor border control into Morocco and when sighted have been stocking up with stuff at Fnideq, the very first place into Morocco.  Morocco is cheap.


Only thoughts but there is more that seems to link

Some other time maybe .......

Or maybe not,  preferably

Give it a rest why don't you  ?   ...  your obsessive nonsense fantasies are ruining the board

[stephen25000]

Thought you'd left?
sadie can post whatever she thinks and we can respond accordingly.

That ok with you?

Likewise, other people can remark on her fantasies.

OK with you too ?

[Angelo222]

One persons fantasy is another persons reality??

[stephen25000]

One persons fantasy is another persons reality??

Quite possibly Angelo.

It's Multiverse Theory.

I'm sure some people think Tony Blair is a decent honorable man and a great middle east peace envoy.

Nah.

[sadie]

Or maybe not,  preferably

Give it a rest why don't you  ?   ...  your obsessive nonsense fantasies are ruining the board

Welcome back Icabod. 

You dont have to read if you dont want to.  Nobody has to, but some might be interested.  There are dozens of links that go on from here, but I will keep it to a minimum.

[sadie]

SNIP/-
 
You will also see that the first woman is carrying what looks like a suitcase from her shoulder
and  ... The woman in black is carrying a suitcase complete with luggage label
They were all dressed up with their bags and they were going somewhere special ... and for a length of time.



Tetouan international airport is about 17 miles away by road.   The port of Cueta is a further 25 miles past there .same road 



Cueta is a tiny part of Spain in Morocco.  Like we have a tiny bit of Spain called Gibraltar.  The two places face each other across the Straits .... and Cueta in Morocco is known for having very poor border controls


Now there was a very convincing sighting very near Cueta by a Spanish Moroccan doctor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491459/Six-months-Madeleine-Is-Moroccan-village-holds-key-disappearence.html

Some reports say they were spotted in the market place.  Could Madeleine have been brought into Cueta from some other country, then thru the poor border control into Morocco and when sighted have been stocking up with stuff at Fnideq, the very first place into Morocco.  Morocco is cheap.


Only thoughts but there is more that seems to link

Cueta is within Morocco, as Gibraltar is within Spain.  Anyone sailing into Cueta Port from Europe will NOT have to go thru customs to get into Cueta, which is part of mainland Morocco.  So no border controls to get on to mainland Morocco.  Cueta is only about 3-5 miles in each direction ... so a pretty tiny place .... but it is part of Spain within Morocco

To get from Cueta to actual Morocco, one has to pass thru a border control border between Cueta and Morocco but according to this article, it is a chaotic, badly-policed frontier ... and money opens doors in Morocco

A grim, soulless place where a dusty sea-wind whistles constantly through the narrow streets and the darkened bazaars seeth with intrigue, the Moroccan town of Fnideq is Africa's last settlement.

Just around the headland of its northern tip, beyond a chaotic, badly-policed frontier, stands Ceuta, the Spanish-owned equivalent of Gibraltar. And across the shimmering straits, so close that the houses are clearly visible, lies the jagged coastline of Europe, an El Dorado for the great many shadowy types who pass this way.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491459/Six-months-Madeleine-Is-Moroccan-village-holds-key-disappearence.html

The above article is well worth a read.  It also covers the common abuse of children within Morocco and a number of other aspects of life out there.

In a land where small boys and girls are routinely sold as house-servants and sexual playthings, a wretched infant cargo moves stealthily from one continent to the next without attracting so much as a second glance.

So was this Madeleine ...  or not ?

[faithlilly]

Cueta is within Morocco, as Gibraltar is within Spain.  Anyone sailing into Cueta Port from Europe will NOT have to go thru customs to get into Cueta, which is part of mainland Morocco.  So no border controls to get on to mainland Morocco.  Cueta is only about 3-5 miles in each direction ... so a pretty tiny place .... but it is part of Spain within Morocco

To get from Cueta to actual Morocco, one has to pass thru a border control border between Cueta and Morocco but according to this article, it is a chaotic, badly-policed frontier ... and money opens doors in Morocco

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491459/Six-months-Madeleine-Is-Moroccan-village-holds-key-disappearence.html

The above article is well worth a read.  It also covers the common abuse of children within Morocco and a number of other aspects of life out there.
 



So was this Madeleine ...  or not ?

The woman in your Daily Mail article was paid for her 'eye witness' account:

https://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Exhibit-NP6-to-ws-of-Nicole-Patterson.pdf

Journalist John Chapman paid Naoual Malhi of  Urbanacion Calahonda Royele, Mijas Costa on the 2nd of November 500 euros for her Madeleine eyewitness account. That payment taints her evidence.

[Carana]

Or maybe not,  preferably

Give it a rest why don't you  ?   ...  your obsessive nonsense fantasies are ruining the board

I find that comment rather rude, I'm afraid.

[Carana]

The woman in your Daily Mail article was paid for her 'eye witness' account:

https://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Exhibit-NP6-to-ws-of-Nicole-Patterson.pdf

Journalist John Chapman paid Naoual Malhi of  Urbanacion Calahonda Royele, Mijas Costa on the 2nd of November 500 euros for her Madeleine eyewitness account. That payment taints her evidence.

I had a look, but can't find the payment in question by John Chapman on that link.

The article Sadie referred to was written by David Jones and Gerard Couzens.

[faithlilly]

I had a look, but can't find the payment in question by John Chapman on that link.

The article Sadie referred to was written by David Jones and Gerard Couzens.

Apologies Carana, it wasn't John Chapman but  Padraic Flanagan.

[Carana]

Apologies Carana, it wasn't John Chapman but  Padraic Flanagan.

No wonder I couldn't see it!

The copy isn't very clear, but it seems like €600, not €500.

An issue could be whether that was to simply to cover travel / accommodation and whoever may have needed a cash sum in situ (i.e. not intended for her own personal profit).

I have no opinion on this, one way or the other.

[faithlilly]

No wonder I couldn't see it!

The copy isn't very clear, but it seems like €600, not €500.

An issue could be whether that was to simply to cover travel / accommodation and whoever may have needed a cash sum in situ (i.e. not intended for her own personal profit).

I have no opinion on this, one way or the other.

Oh come, come Carana, you have an opinion on everything.

Surely you agree that if a witness is paid for a story by a newspaper, then the authenticity of that story should be questioned ?

[Carana]

Oh come, come Carana, you have an opinion on everything.

Surely you agree that if a witness is paid for a story by a newspaper, then the authenticity of that story should be questioned ?

Nope. I don't have an opinion on this as I don't know what that amount was intended to cover. If the amount had been broken down, it would be easier to come to a conclusion.

NB: the second entry for him is quite interesting...

[Sherlock Holmes]

It is very much a western / European perspective that receiving money for something would taint a person's credibility.

A European can afford to take time to consider the propriety and implications of taking money for something. It's often considered seedy, even when morally OK.

In a poor country, people buy and sell without impunity as a matter of necessity. Little thought is given to the transaction and therefore it doesn't carry the same suggestion of ulterior motive.

Same goes in America - everything has a price tag, end of story.