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stephen25000

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Children wandering off.
« on: September 06, 2013, 07:45:41 AM »
For those who believe children can't wander off by themselves......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-23973542

Now if a 2 year old can wander off.....................
« Last Edit: September 06, 2013, 08:24:52 AM by stephen25000 »

ferryman

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 08:49:46 AM »
Who believes children (aside from those without legs or too young to walk) can't wander off on their own?

stephen25000

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 08:52:26 AM »
Who believes children (aside from those without legs or too young to walk) can't wander off on their own?

INCLUDING OF COURSE AN UNLOCKED APARTMENT..........................

ferryman

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 08:55:06 AM »
INCLUDING OF COURSE AN UNLOCKED APARTMENT..........................

If you bother to do a little basic research you'll discover why the McCanns discounted that possibility

Offline puglove

Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2013, 08:57:55 AM »
Who believes children (aside from those without legs or too young to walk) can't wander off on their own?

My friend's little boy walked out of reception class, and she found him sitting on the doorstep. He'd walked the whole length of the village, and when she rang the school they hadn't even missed him.
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

stephen25000

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2013, 09:01:45 AM »
If you bother to do a little basic research you'll discover why the McCanns discounted that possibility

Oh the Mccanns discounted that possibility, wow.

Since when have they been in charge of investigating  Madeleine's disappearance ?

Now if the apartment was unlocked as they claim, she could have walked out.

Perhaps though, the apartment was locked all along. >@@(*&)

ferryman

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2013, 09:25:10 AM »
From joao Carlos' final report:

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically – and after, because of an accident or by a third person intervention, she would have disappeared.

Next?

stephen25000

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2013, 09:31:59 AM »
From joao Carlos' final report:

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically – and after, because of an accident or by a third person intervention, she would have disappeared.

Next?

Highly unlikely, does not mean it didn't happen.

The Mccanns claim the apartment was unlocked, so a child could open the door and walk out.............

Next please.

Offline Lace

Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2013, 09:48:51 AM »
Stephen,   of course a child can open a door and walk out,  you don't have to show a story in a newspaper to prove that,  it is a well known fact.

The point is did Madeleine?

Did Madeleine open the patio doors,  shut them behind her,  open the safety gate,  shut it behind her [at the top of the steps]   or climb over it,  at the top of the steps?

What about CC the toy she clutched when upset?  surely she would have taken that with her?

Also there was the open window and shutter to consider.

I don't think Madeleine would have wandered out. 

 

What if she did though?    At the bottom of the steps,  as a professional stated,  she would have been drawn to the bright lights and noise of the Tapas Bar.


Offline Chinagirl

Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2013, 09:50:49 AM »
One has to use some commonsense here, not just blanket dismissal of what the parents said.  Commonsense says that it is HIGHLY unlikely that Madeleine woke and wandered, despite the patio door to the apartment being unlocked.

It is not necessary to go through these reasons again - it's an issue that has been discussed innumerable times on many forums over the last six years.
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stephen25000

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 09:54:00 AM »
Stephen,   of course a child can open a door and walk out,  you don't have to show a story in a newspaper to prove that,  it is a well known fact.

The point is did Madeleine?

Did Madeleine open the patio doors,  shut them behind her,  open the safety gate,  shut it behind her [at the top of the steps]   or climb over it,  at the top of the steps?

What about CC the toy she clutched when upset?  surely she would have taken that with her?

Also there was the open window and shutter to consider.

I don't think Madeleine would have wandered out. 

 

What if she did though?    At the bottom of the steps,  as a professional stated,  she would have been drawn to the bright lights and noise of the Tapas Bar.

Open window and shutter. Not proven, but you know that.

How do you know Madeleine had this toy in her hands ?

That's pure supposition and irrelevant.

How do you know she just didn't walk out and leave the doors open ?

When children want to, they can be quite determined, especially in a panic/distressed.

stephen25000

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 09:56:11 AM »
One has to use some commonsense here, not just blanket dismissal of what the parents said.  Commonsense says that it is HIGHLY unlikely that Madeleine woke and wandered, despite the patio door to the apartment being unlocked.

It is not necessary to go through these reasons again - it's an issue that has been discussed innumerable times on many forums over the last six years.

Commonsense ?

You do not know the parents told the truth.

Explain to me logically, why it is unlikely Madeleine woke up and wandered off.

Offline Lace

Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2013, 09:56:22 AM »
Explain your reply  'how do you know Madeleine had this toy in her hands' ????

stephen25000

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2013, 09:58:37 AM »
Explain your reply  'how do you know Madeleine had this toy in her hands' ????

You referred to it.

I wouldn't have mentioned that.

It is irrelevant.

Lyall

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Re: Children wandering off.
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2013, 09:59:42 AM »
Open window and shutter. Not proven, but you know that.

How do you know Madeleine had this toy in her hands ?

That's pure supposition and irrelevant.

How do you know she just didn't walk out and leave the doors open ?

When children want to, they can be quite determined, especially in a panic/distressed.

This is what Danny Collins thinks happened.