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AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2013, 04:25:26 PM »

Martin Brunt, from Sky News who was in Lisbon covering the book banning trial was the only reporter who tried to set the record straight, he wrote the following in his Sky News blog on January 15, 2010:


Life of Crime - My New Best Friend

Spare a thought for my new best friend Goncalo Amaral.

I’m beginning to think the former detective in the Madeleine McCann case has a point when he complains about the British media attacking him.

My Beeb colleague accused him of saying “F*** the McCanns” in an alleged off-guard moment when we all followed him out of court the other day.

What he actually said was “Fala com McCanns” which means “Ask the McCanns”.

The rest of us, through our interpreters, understood perfectly what he was saying.

I think he needs a good libel lawyer.

Isabel Duarte may be free when she has finished pursuing him over his book on the Madeleine case.


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So, any proof Mr Amaral understands or speaks English yet? And if he does why it matters?

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I don't remember that reporter (he might have been only outside of the tribunal with his cameraman), a sort of masculine version of Ms Campbell, but I remember seeing Martin Brunt in the court room in all sessions, very attentive, and it must be acknowledged that he was fair.

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2013, 05:08:21 PM »
8((()*/ I always thought he's a good bloke.

I saw him speaking to the brother of Alps 'massacre' victim last week. Dodgy! >@@(*&)

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2013, 05:57:07 PM »
I don't remember that reporter (he might have been only outside of the tribunal with his cameraman), a sort of masculine version of Ms Campbell, but I remember seeing Martin Brunt in the court room in all sessions, very attentive, and it must be acknowledged that he was fair.

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2013, 06:28:43 PM »
I don't remember that reporter (he might have been only outside of the tribunal with his cameraman), a sort of masculine version of Ms Campbell, but I remember seeing Martin Brunt in the court room in all sessions, very attentive, and it must be acknowledged that he was fair.

Me neither, but he is a regional journalist, I think, not London based  from where we got the main news from bbc and sky. I thk he did a few reports n the trial, but only shown in north east England tv channels. And yes, Lori Cambells double! Licking hs lips in spreading misinformation on TV, came back to bite him on the backside though and rightly so.

DCI  what's Ian Woods go to do with anything? That's Mike O'Sullivan in that video.
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Offline Luz

Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2013, 11:18:10 PM »
I'm confused.

According to Luz, everyone in the Algarve is conversant with English.

Was Amaral fluent in English or not?

Dr. Amaral understands English very well, but as most of the portuguese that have studied it he doesn't speak it.
I hope that answers your doubt.

Offline Luz

Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2013, 11:22:11 PM »
I don't know what he said which is why I asked the question.  "Ask" doesn't sound anything like the other word ....

Being silly???
He answered in portuguese "fala com os McCann" - which the deaf BBC guy translated by "F..K the McCann" ( I wonder if it was his subconscious speaking).

Edited to correct.

Redblossom

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2013, 11:29:45 PM »
Being silly???
He answered in portuguese "fala com os McCann" - which the deaf BBC guy translated by "F..K the McCann" ( I wonder if it was his subconscious speaking).

Edited to correct.
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deaf stupid malcious or all three rather...alll the facts here have been presented, no one can be under any illusion anymore that GA swore,end of




Offline Chinagirl

Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »
Being silly???
He answered in portuguese "fala com os McCann" - which the deaf BBC guy translated by "F..K the McCann" ( I wonder if it was his subconscious speaking).

Edited to correct.

"Fala com ...." does sound vaguely like the word the BBC reporter thought he'd heard.  An understandable mistake for a non-Portuguese speaker.
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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2013, 12:39:33 AM »
"Fala com ...." does sound vaguely like the word the BBC reporter thought he'd heard.  An understandable mistake for a non-Portuguese speaker.


As a journalist he should have checked before publishing such an aggravating statement. If that "poor, ignorant news reporter" had been to Portugal recently he would have learnt that most portuguese, although understanding perfectly the English language, usually respond in Portuguese. I do and all my acquaintances do.

Even though I use English daily as my working language when communicating with colleagues from all around the world, I will never use it when addressed in the Algarve by ex-pats or tourists. It is my duty and obligation to make you'll understand that if you come here, or in particular if you live here, you have to learn how to address us, indigenous.

Portuguese journalists doing pieces abroad are chosen according to their mastery of the language. There would never be a journalist sent to Britain without knowing to understand and speak English.

I am not calling the Briton ignorant I am simply stating that in general, and in particular the press people are poorly educated about other cultures.

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2013, 01:42:06 AM »
Deleted.  On second thoughts it is better not to rise to poisonous xenophobia!
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icabodcrane

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2013, 02:32:16 AM »
What arrogance and intolerance you display in that comment, insisting that ex-pats address you in Portuguese when, by your own admittance you could speak to them in English! But then, most of your posts here display extraordinary intolerance and a huge chip on the shoulder!

I know firsthand what it's like to live in a country where I couldn't speak a word of the language when I first arrived.  Being a tonal language Chinese is particularly difficult for the Western ear, so I was immensely grateful for helpful, tolerant colleagues and others.  I seldom encountered the sort of xenophobia you exhibit.

Your post is the epitome of intolerance   ...  you do realise that  ? 

stephen25000

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2013, 07:13:26 AM »
Your post is the epitome of intolerance   ...  you do realise that  ?

Well said.

It is the normal custom when you go and live abroad to learn the language.

Too many British expect 'johnny foreigner' to speak English for their convenience.

Offline Benice

Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2013, 08:07:49 AM »
"Fala com ...." does sound vaguely like the word the BBC reporter thought he'd heard.  An understandable mistake for a non-Portuguese speaker.

I agree - especially as the first word spoken by Amaral in his reply was 'NO' - so understandable that the reporter would assume that the rest of his short reply was also in English.   And of course he wasn't the only one who made that mistake, I believe it was a while before it was sorted out.    It was a genuine mistake.   

I do believe that people who go to live abroad should learn the language  - but as a German lad who once stayed with us said  - (when I commented on how bad we were in this country at foreign languages)  - ''Why bother - if you learn German you can can only speak it if you visit  Germany - whereas English is global and the most common language learned all over the world''.

I have a friend who is Scottish married to an Italian lady - their twins have been bi-lingual since they began to talk as toddlers.    I think that's amazing.





         


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2013, 10:20:33 AM »
I agree - especially as the first word spoken by Amaral in his reply was 'NO' - so understandable that the reporter would assume that the rest of his short reply was also in English.   
       
No, Mr Amaral doesn't say "no", he says "não" (nasalized vowel).

Offline Benice

Re: Was Dr Amaral fluent in English or not?
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2013, 10:40:59 AM »
No, Mr Amaral doesn't say "no", he says "não" (nasalized vowel).

But it sounded like 'No' Anne.  That is the point.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal