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Redblossom

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2013, 08:32:16 PM »
It was "HE" that wrote the book.

If you are going to accuse Gerry and Kate of being responsible for the death/covering up the death of their daughter, then the onus is you to prove it.  You can't just bandy around allegations, or even suggestions like that. 

Have you ever stopped to think how you might feel, if you were in Kate and Gerrys situation?
You got kids?

It would be helpful and constructive if you actually read and then responded to my post instead of going off again

Eta

i repeat for the hard of hearing, it was not HIS theory alone, do you actually get that?
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Offline Luz

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2013, 08:37:10 PM »
As I'm a darling I'll give you one translation of the Preface:
 from Anna Andress, a translation from the French version.

This is the Foreword from the French version, [urlhttp://frommybigdesk.blogspot.pt/2009/06/madeleine-mccann-forbidden.html][/url]

"Certainly, this book responds to the need I felt to defend myself, having been discredited by the institution for which I worked for more than twenty-six years, without being given any chance to explain myself, publicly or within the institution itself. I made the request several times, but it was never heard. I, therefore, scrupulously respected the rules of the judiciary police and I refrained from making any comment. But this goes without saying: I experienced that silence to which I was constrained as an attack on my dignity. Later, I was removed from the investigation. It was then that I understood that it was time to speak. To do that, I requested early retirement in order to be able to express myself freely.

However, the purpose of this work is more important: to contribute to finding the truth so that justice can finally be done in the investigation known as the "Maddie case." Truth and justice are two values strongly anchored within me, which reflect my profound beliefs: they always guided the work I did for the institution to which I am proud to have belonged. Even in retirement, they continue to inspire me and to be present in my life.

In no way does this text seek to challenge the work of my colleagues in the judiciary police or to compromise the ongoing investigation. I am convinced that the disclosure of all the facts may, in the present case, result in harming the investigation. However, the reader will have access to unpublished information, to new interpretations of events - always with respect for the law - and, of course, to relevant enquiries.

The only objective of a criminal investigation is the search for truth. There is no place for the "politically correct."
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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2013, 08:45:10 PM »
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I requested early retirement in order to be able to express myself freely.


Liar, he was sacked.

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I am convinced that the disclosure of all the facts may, in the present case, result in harming the investigation

So he deliberately harmed the case
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Redblossom

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2013, 08:47:21 PM »
Liar, he was sacked.

he was sacked from the case but not from the police, so yes he did request early retirement DCI, now whose lying
 >@@(*&)

as for your second quote, no, wrong agan, no use in biased selective quoting is there? it is clear he was aware that disclosure of ALL THE FACTS might harm the investigation....it doesnt mean he disclosed them ALL, he means exaxtly the opposite, he just disclosed a few things here and there...It really isnt rocket science



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Offline Luz

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2013, 08:48:46 PM »
Liar, he was sacked.

No he wasn't. He was redirected to lead the Faro's Headquarters where he was in a better position than in Portimão.

In fact just prior to asking for his resignation he made the biggest European arrest of drug's traffic. It is in the newspapers.
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ferryman

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2013, 08:50:16 PM »
As I'm a darling I'll give you one translation of the Preface:
 from Anna Andress, a translation from the French version.

This is the Foreword from the French version, [urlhttp://frommybigdesk.blogspot.pt/2009/06/madeleine-mccann-forbidden.html][/url]

"Certainly, this book responds to the need I felt to defend myself, having been discredited by the institution for which I worked for more than twenty-six years, without being given any chance to explain myself, publicly or within the institution itself. I made the request several times, but it was never heard. I, therefore, scrupulously respected the rules of the judiciary police and I refrained from making any comment. But this goes without saying: I experienced that silence to which I was constrained as an attack on my dignity. Later, I was removed from the investigation. It was then that I understood that it was time to speak. To do that, I requested early retirement in order to be able to express myself freely.

However, the purpose of this work is more important: to contribute to finding the truth so that justice can finally be done in the investigation known as the "Maddie case." Truth and justice are two values strongly anchored within me, which reflect my profound beliefs: they always guided the work I did for the institution to which I am proud to have belonged. Even in retirement, they continue to inspire me and to be present in my life.

In no way does this text seek to challenge the work of my colleagues in the judiciary police or to compromise the ongoing investigation. I am convinced that the disclosure of all the facts may, in the present case, result in harming the investigation. However, the reader will have access to unpublished information, to new interpretations of events - always with respect for the law - and, of course, to relevant enquiries.

The only objective of a criminal investigation is the search for truth. There is no place for the "politically correct."
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I, therefore, scrupulously respected the rules of the judiciary police and I refrained from making any comment. But this goes without saying: I experienced that silence to which I was constrained as an attack on my dignity.

Amaral scrupulously disregarded the rules of the judiciary police by breaching the rules of secrecy in preparing his book for publication before the process was archived and before the veil of secrecy was lifted from the investigation.  Our man Brunt has already established that!

And Amaral famously declared: Soon, very soon, the world will know the Truth of the Lie!

Suddenly, the same Goncalo Amaral seems keen to keep the same 'truth' veiled.

Why is that?

Offline Luz

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2013, 08:55:27 PM »
It was a great loss for Portugal and Europe that he chose to get out in order to speak.

I'm not going to accuse anyone but just acknowledge that I am very sad that this man had to leave in order to defend himself and his family from you know who...

 8(8-))

Redblossom

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2013, 08:56:18 PM »
I, therefore, scrupulously respected the rules of the judiciary police and I refrained from making any comment. But this goes without saying: I experienced that silence to which I was constrained as an attack on my dignity.

Amaral scrupulously disregarded the rules of the judiciary police by breaching the rules of secrecy in preparing his book for publication before the process was archived and before the veil of secrecy was lifted from the investigation.  Our man Brunt has already established that!

And Amaral famously declared: Soon, very soon, the world will know the Truth of the Lie!

Suddenly, the same Goncalo Amaral seems keen to keep the same 'truth' veiled.

Why is that?

God youre so funny...LooooL

preparing a book is not breachng the law of secrecy, if he had published before the case was shelved you may have a point, but that never happened, so you dont

But carry on tryng to make black into white, you may get there some day, or probably and hopefully not, thankfully

ferryman

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2013, 08:58:47 PM »
God youre so funny...LooooL

preparing a book is not breachng the law of secrecy, if he had published before the case was shelved you may have a point, but that never happened, so you dont

But carry on tryng to make black into white, you may get there some day, or probably and hopefully not, thankfully

Maybe you need to brush up a little on the rules of secrecy ...

Offline Carana

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2013, 09:00:32 PM »
No he wasn't. He was redirected to lead the Faro's Headquarters where he was in a better position than in Portimão.

In fact just prior to asking for his resignation he made the biggest European arrest of drug's traffic. It is in the newspapers.

Which newspapers reported him as having achieved this?

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2013, 09:01:02 PM »
Read it. It is said in the Preface.

Ah yes - thank you for pointing it out. 

20 euros. 

Redblossom

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2013, 09:03:58 PM »
Maybe you need to brush up a little on the rules of secrecy ...

i dont think I need to brush up on anythng at all...writing something in preparation does not breach secrecy...if it is not public, simple as that

Offline Carana

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #87 on: September 12, 2013, 09:06:29 PM »
It was a great loss for Portugal and Europe that he chose to get out in order to speak.

I'm not going to accuse anyone but just acknowledge that I am very sad that this man had to leave in order to defend himself and his family from you know who...

 8(8-))

Seriously?

ferryman

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Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #88 on: September 12, 2013, 09:06:59 PM »
i dont think I need to brush up on anythng at all...writing something in preparation does not breach secrecy...if it is not public, simple as that

You certainly need to brush up ...

Offline sika

Re: In Camera - Amaral seeks to have media excluded from libel trial.
« Reply #89 on: September 12, 2013, 09:09:48 PM »
As I'm a darling I'll give you one translation of the Preface:
 from Anna Andress, a translation from the French version.

This is the Foreword from the French version, [urlhttp://frommybigdesk.blogspot.pt/2009/06/madeleine-mccann-forbidden.html][/url]

"Certainly, this book responds to the need I felt to defend myself, having been discredited by the institution for which I worked for more than twenty-six years, without being given any chance to explain myself, publicly or within the institution itself. I made the request several times, but it was never heard. I, therefore, scrupulously respected the rules of the judiciary police and I refrained from making any comment. But this goes without saying: I experienced that silence to which I was constrained as an attack on my dignity. Later, I was removed from the investigation. It was then that I understood that it was time to speak. To do that, I requested early retirement in order to be able to express myself freely.

However, the purpose of this work is more important: to contribute to finding the truth so that justice can finally be done in the investigation known as the "Maddie case." Truth and justice are two values strongly anchored within me, which reflect my profound beliefs: they always guided the work I did for the institution to which I am proud to have belonged. Even in retirement, they continue to inspire me and to be present in my life.

In no way does this text seek to challenge the work of my colleagues in the judiciary police or to compromise the ongoing investigation. I am convinced that the disclosure of all the facts may, in the present case, result in harming the investigation. However, the reader will have access to unpublished information, to new interpretations of events - always with respect for the law - and, of course, to relevant enquiries.

The only objective of a criminal investigation is the search for truth. There is no place for the "politically correct."
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Why would anyone care what this man says, anyway?

If he believes that the parents were responsible, what on earth did he do about proving it?

The man was incompetent and totally bungled the investigation, hence, he was taken off the case.

He went on to further display his poor judgement, by writing this book.