Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.

[ShiningInLuz]

Equating the loss of a job to the loss of a child
I'm surprised the McCanns didn't jump at the chance of working with you

21 jobs on this occasion, with many more to come, whilst the McCanns were economically comfortable in Rothley.

[Benice]

It isn't surprising that some families would be put off from making a booking at the same holiday complex from where a little child  had disappeared whilst on holdiay    That would be the case regardless of whoever the child was or whether posters were put up or not.

On the other hand that would be offset to some extent by those people who go to PdL because of their interest in the McCann case  -which still happens today according to SIL.

Also the local economy must have received quite a boost from the hundreds of media folk who were around for months -all of whom would require food and accommodation during their stay -  and were obviously over and above the usual nos. of visitors.

So swings and roundabouts to some extent imo - and the financial world crash must have had an impact.

However, it would not occur to me in a hundred years to even consider for a second (in advance)  - that anyone could be so unfeeling that billboard posters asking for help re a missing child would be vandalised.  The argument that they should have known that was a possibiity is completely unrealistic imo. 

I wonder how many parents in PdL were extra vigilant over their own children's safety after what happened - in the same way that parents living in April Jones community were. - even after the perpetrator had been caught.

Would there have been such resentment if it had been one of their own?   I don't think so.

IMO

[Angelo222]

Perhaps you would like to supply something more solid
The OC was not open all year round so most employees would be on a casual basis
Nothing to substantiate redundancies has ever been produced but has been blindly accepted

There is no doubt that there were many redundancies following Maddie's disappearance from Ocean Club.  The internet is full of such stories from both employees and operators.

"On the day Gerry McCann flew out to film a reconstruction of his daughters disappearance, 21 Ocean Club workers were axed.

They were told by letter that as well as the world economic crisis and the falling pound, there was a downturn in business due to Maddie's disappearance in 2007."

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2362875/Praia-da-Luz-workers-to-sue-Maddie-family.html

[Angelo222]

Madeleine McCann holiday firm pulls out of Portuguese resort where she vanished

The holiday company at the centre of the Madeleine McCann case has quit the Portuguese resort where she vanished.

Mark Warner will no longer operate the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on the Algarve.

The firm has been struggling to attract bookings there following the three-year-old’s abduction in 2007.

British holidaymakers shunned the complex as worldwide media coverage of the case raised safety concerns and profits dwindled.

A source said: “Mark Warner ended the deal recently after trying to make it work for a few years."

“Now people feel the resort will become deserted. It is a huge blow.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-holiday-firm-pulls-4915169

[sadie]

There is no doubt that there were many redundancies following Maddie's disappearance from Ocean Club.  The internet is full of such stories.

"On the day Gerry McCann flew out to film a reconstruction of his daughters disappearance, 21 Ocean Club workers were axed.

They were told by letter that as well as the world economic crisis and the falling pound, there was a downturn in business due to Maddie's disappearance in 2007."

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2362875/Praia-da-Luz-workers-to-sue-Maddie-family.html

Impecible timing eh?

Done to try and ruin the filming of the recontruction by the Mccanns?

 £5%4%

[ShiningInLuz]

It isn't surprising that some families would be put off from making a booking at the same holiday complex from where a little child  had disappeared whilst on holdiay    That would be the case regardless of whoever the child was or whether posters were put up or not.

On the other hand that would be offset to some extent by those people who go to PdL because of their interest in the McCann case  -which still happens today according to SIL.

Also the local economy must have received quite a boost from the hundreds of media folk who were around for months -all of whom would require food and accommodation during their stay -  and were obviously over and above the usual nos. of visitors.

So swings and roundabouts to some extent imo - and the financial world crash must have had an impact.

However, it would not occur to me in a hundred years to even consider for a second (in advance)  - that anyone could be so unfeeling that billboard posters asking for help re a missing child would be vandalised.  The argument that they should have known that was a possibiity is completely unrealistic imo. 

I wonder how many parents in PdL were extra vigilant over their own children's safety after what happened - in the same way that parents living in April Jones community were. - even after the perpetrator had been caught.

Would there have been such resentment if it had been one of their own?   I don't think so.

IMO

I don't think 4 visitors per year now is making any significant difference.

The Ocean Club and OC staff suffered, as the media repeatedly point out it happened there.  But the media don't stay at the OC, even if they are staying in Luz.  I don't know where OG stayed.  No swings or roundabouts.

May I ask you why the McCanns couldn't foresee it?  Did they think they were popular in Luz in particular or Portugal in general?  Did they do any image building in either?

The McCanns cannot simultaneously be intelligent as doctors but unintelligent as to the feelings of the locals.  The truth is in the documentary.  They knew and they didn't care.

Resentment about one of their own?  I have not heard a single word of resentment towards Madeleine, not one.  It is the attitude and actions of the parents that attract resentment.

And if someone from Luz had lost a child in similar circumstances, then returned to England to economic comfort while Luz rotted, would that person be popular for saturating Luz with posters and leaflets 2 years on?  I think the most likely emotion would be resentment.

The posters were dumb.  The response was predictable.

[Robittybob1]

Madeleine McCann holiday firm pulls out of Portuguese resort where she vanished

The holiday company at the centre of the Madeleine McCann case has quit the Portuguese resort where she vanished.

Mark Warner will no longer operate the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on the Algarve.

The firm has been struggling to attract bookings there following the three-year-old’s abduction in 2007.

British holidaymakers shunned the complex as worldwide media coverage of the case raised safety concerns and profits dwindled.

A source said: “Mark Warner ended the deal recently after trying to make it work for a few years."

“Now people feel the resort will become deserted. It is a huge blow.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-holiday-firm-pulls-4915169

That was interesting to see they made an insurance claim to cover the losses that occurred.

[stephen25000]

Impecible timing eh?

Done to try and ruin the filming of the recontruction by the Mccanns?

 £5%4%

No Sadie, just your imagination in overdrive.

[sadie]

Since you repeatedly request other to stick to facts, let's see what the facts are.

I have not seen 'other posters'.  If you have, then kindly post them or a link.  If not, speculation about other posters is simply speculation.

In the absence of such, we have the single OP billboard at Valverde, east of Luz.  It is in Portuguese and has a Portuguese phone number to contact.  That number is (8)00 814 028.  Only the 8 is close to full obliteration and the rest of the number is clearly visible.

Anyone Portuguese, or able to read Portuguese would recognise it as a Portuguese Freephone number.  Portuguese Freephone numbers all start 800. 

The important part for communication is the 6 digits that follow 814 028.  Obliterate, say, 3 or those, and communication would be prevented.  Yet no such attempt was made.  They are perfectly clear.

To prevent communication, there was no need to spatter Madeleine's photo.

The idea that the vandalism would scare someone into not communicating is pure speculation.  IMO, trying to scare off some unknown person to prevent them using a Freephone contact number is a weak concept.

May I ask you, if you want the help of someone do you alienate them before doing so?  Were the McCann's smart in dumping on Luz whilst asking for the help of Luz citizens?  In 'Madeleine was here', Kate makes clear that she knew Luz was suffering.  Do you think it was wise to impose more suffering, whilst asking for help from those suffering?  IMO, you do not kick someone then ask if they will help you. The McCann's thought otherwise.

Contact method from the McCann's to Luz was easy.  In 'Madeleine was here', it seems some of the locals were present, along with a large media crowd, when Gerry went to apartment 5A.  That means Gerry's visit to Luz was advertised.  Tough cookie about the impact on Luz, and Gerry did not have the decency to interact with the citizens who turned up.  Communication would be one-way, as per usual, with Clarence berating the citizens of Luz for their misdeeds.

Luz has a mayor and a town hall, as anyone can establish very easily.  So, was the mayor consulted?  It would seem not.  Was the suggestion made that perhaps a meeting in the town hall would be a good chance to talk to the citizens of Luz about the posters and the documentary?  Nope, Team McCann demonstrated utter disregard for the citizens of Luz.

Did Team McCann put these events on their website and invite feedback?  No, from Fortress Rothley it was decided that this type of inclusive approach was not the way to go.  Stuff the citizens of Luz.

Perhaps Edgar was an influence in this.  In the documentary, he states that it is necessary to do a reconstruction in Luz because that is where the incident occurred.  OG seems to have thought much the same.  I wonder if Rebelo ever watched 'Madeleine was here', and if so, what he thought of it.

It was dumb.  One does not alienate people one wants help from.  Unthinking, unfeeling, uncaring.

The 800 phone number is still up on the Find Madeleine website.  I wonder if anyone answers.

21 people out of a job.  Why is it there seems to be no empathy from McCann supporters for them?  And the number of restaurants and cafés that have closed.  Is there no empathy for them?  Does empathy start and end with the McCanns?

You should see the town I live in.  Virtually half the shops and restaurants have closed.  Loads are unemployed.

It is called the recession ... and it is global.

[Alice Purjorick]

It isn't surprising that some families would be put off from making a booking at the same holiday complex from where a little child  had disappeared whilst on holdiay    That would be the case regardless of whoever the child was or whether posters were put up or not.

On the other hand that would be offset to some extent by those people who go to PdL because of their interest in the McCann case  -which still happens today according to SIL.

Also the local economy must have received quite a boost from the hundreds of media folk who were around for months -all of whom would require food and accommodation during their stay -  and were obviously over and above the usual nos. of visitors.

So swings and roundabouts to some extent imo - and the financial world crash must have had an impact.

However, it would not occur to me in a hundred years to even consider for a second (in advance)  - that anyone could be so unfeeling that billboard posters asking for help re a missing child would be vandalised.  The argument that they should have known that was a possibiity is completely unrealistic imo. 

I wonder how many parents in PdL were extra vigilant over their own children's safety after what happened - in the same way that parents living in April Jones community were. - even after the perpetrator had been caught.

Would there have been such resentment if it had been one of their own?   I don't think so.

IMO

If that argument held any water why are Manchester and Cannock not completely devoid of population?

[G-Unit]

Impecible timing eh?

Done to try and ruin the filming of the recontruction by the Mccanns?

 £5%4%

Why would Mark Warner make 21 people redundant with the aim of ruining the McCann's film? Did Mark Warner want them to stay away too?

[ShiningInLuz]

You should see the town I live in.  Virtually half the shops and restaurants have closed.  Loads are unemployed.

It is called the recession ... and it is global.

Do parents put up billboard posters of 'snatched' children in your town?  In Luz, the livelihood is tourism.  What is it in yours?

[Robittybob1]

Why would Mark Warner make 21 people redundant with the aim of ruining the McCann's film? Did Mark Warner want them to stay away too?

Highly likely.

[Angelo222]

Why would Mark Warner make 21 people redundant with the aim of ruining the McCann's film? Did Mark Warner want them to stay away too?

Were they gone by then or only notified that day?  Rather odd timing I admit   £5%4%

[sadie]

Do parents put up billboard posters of 'snatched' children in your town?  In Luz, the livelihood is tourism.  What is it in yours?

Global recession Shining, although undoubtedly Madeleines abduction will have affected some initially.  But others having seen on TV what a pretty place PdL is, will visit .. when they might not have done before, possibly because they had never heard of it.