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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2016, 05:37:16 PM »
Almost all the Ocean Club employees would have been on contract for the season
No more
So the talk of mass redundecies is bogus

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2016, 05:44:54 PM »
Almost all the Ocean Club employees would have been on contract for the season
No more
So the talk of mass redundecies is bogus
I take it you have no idea how employment works here.

Since there was more than one take on these lay-offs, you are going to have to supply something more solid than this.
What's up, old man?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2016, 06:16:25 PM »
It isn't a fact that Madeleine McCann was abducted. If she wasn't, no amount of appeals will bring her back. She may have the right to be looked for, but does that override the right of others to live in peace? Must they be forever harangued because a child disappeared from their town?

Just when the local people thought it had gone away, it came back;

The initial focus of 'the search for Madeleine' was international. After two years the focus, driven by Dave Edgar, returned to the place where she disappeared. A new campaign was launched;

''Around 10,000 leaflets are being handed out and posted through letterboxes in Praia da Luz and the nearby towns of Lagos and Burgau.

The Algarve campaign is being backed by billboards, posters and advertising on local buses.

The appeal has been criticised by part of the local population who have dismissed it as a waste of time and claim it is affecting the resort's image.

Resident Maria Afonso said: "It's stupid to think this campaign will bring Madeleine back two years after she disappeared. It's just sullying the reputation of the Algarve." Local Rute Fernandes added: "It's a waste of time. "There's not a single person on the Algarve that is unaware of this case and doesn't know who Madeleine McCann was."'
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/23-MARCH9/TELEGRAPH_26_03_09.htm

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Offline sadie

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2016, 06:21:32 PM »
No one knows who did it and why

I dont know where you would find them now, but the poster Luz was on record of bragging that s/he had defaced the posters.

Offline mercury

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2016, 11:36:35 PM »
I dont know where you would find them now, but the poster Luz was on record of bragging that s/he had defaced the posters.

Even if true doubt their motivation was to stop the missing child being found as alledged
If a child was abducted from two doors down from your house would you be happy with endless years of posters being stuck on your house? Especially in a "circus" situation? And in a situation where the parents of said missing chikd were suspects? I doubt it very much

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #155 on: November 04, 2016, 05:45:00 AM »
I take it you have no idea how employment works here.

Since there was more than one take on these lay-offs, you are going to have to supply something more solid than this.

Perhaps you would like to supply something more solid
The OC was not open all year round so most employees would be on a casual basis
Nothing to substantiate redundancies has ever been produced but has been blindly accepted

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #156 on: November 04, 2016, 11:15:16 AM »
Perhaps you would like to supply something more solid
The OC was not open all year round so most employees would be on a casual basis
Nothing to substantiate redundancies has ever been produced but has been blindly accepted
Make up your mind as to whether they were on contract so lay-offs did not happen, or whether they were on a casual basis therefore termination does not constitute redundancy.

It's called waffling.

At the START of the 2009 season, 21 people were told they had no job.  Any reasonable person would equate that to redundancy, with or without a contract.
What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #157 on: November 04, 2016, 11:25:38 AM »
Even if true doubt their motivation was to stop the missing child being found as alledged
If a child was abducted from two doors down from your house would you be happy with endless years of posters being stuck on your house? Especially in a "circus" situation? And in a situation where the parents of said missing chikd were suspects? I doubt it very much
How many were stuck on houses?  Cite please.


Offline jassi

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #158 on: November 04, 2016, 11:36:56 AM »
Make up your mind as to whether they were on contract so lay-offs did not happen, or whether they were on a casual basis therefore termination does not constitute redundancy.

It's called waffling.

At the START of the 2009 season, 21 people were told they had no job.  Any reasonable person would equate that to redundancy, with or without a contract.

It  amazes me how people will argue black is white over the most trivial of matters.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #159 on: November 04, 2016, 03:04:56 PM »
Make up your mind as to whether they were on contract so lay-offs did not happen, or whether they were on a casual basis therefore termination does not constitute redundancy.

It's called waffling.

At the START of the 2009 season, 21 people were told they had no job.  Any reasonable person would equate that to redundancy, with or without a contract.

Unless you can provide a cite to back up your claim then you are waffling
Go ahead and try not to be so rude

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #160 on: November 04, 2016, 03:29:22 PM »
In a thread with the word -redundancies- in the title, it would help if you read the links on how this was reported.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/maddie/2373773/How-Praia-da-Luz-turned-on-Maddie-McCann.html

This appears earlier in this topic.  Dated 13 Apr 2009, it covers the billboard, the posters, Gerrys return to Luz to help make Madeleine Was Here, and the 21 Ocean Club staff being laid off.

~Emotions are especially high at the Ocean Club complex from where she disappeared, where 21 employees have been sacked due to a downturn in trade.
The first line in the letters of dismissal blamed negative publicity caused by Maddie vanishing. Some workers heckled dad Gerry McCann, 40, during his recent surprise visit to film a reconstruction of events. Others are said to be considering legal action against the family for loss of income.
A middle-aged barmaid at the development’s empty tapas bar — which should be bustling with British tourists during the Easter holidays — revealed she is among those being let go on May 9.~
« Last Edit: November 05, 2016, 04:20:31 PM by Angelo222 »
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #161 on: November 04, 2016, 03:37:56 PM »
In a thread with the word -redundancies- in the title, it would help if you read the links on how this was reported.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/maddie/2373773/How-Praia-da-Luz-turned-on-Maddie-McCann.html

This appears earlier in this topic.  Dated 13 Apr 2009, it covers the billboard, the posters, Gerrys return to Luz to help make Madeleine Was Here, and the 21 Ocean Club staff being laid off.

~Emotions are especially high at the Ocean Club complex from where she disappeared, where 21 employees have been sacked due to a downturn in trade.
The first line in the letters of dismissal blamed negative publicity caused by Maddie vanishing. Some workers heckled dad Gerry McCann, 40, during his recent surprise visit to film a reconstruction of events. Others are said to be considering legal action against the family for loss of income.
A middle-aged barmaid at the development’s empty tapas bar — which should be bustling with British tourists during the Easter holidays — revealed she is among those being let go on May 9.~

So you are basing your claim on a newspaper article in the Scottish Sun
Is this your only source
Need I point out to you how unreliable these articles are
It seems I do

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #162 on: November 04, 2016, 03:44:56 PM »
In a thread with the word -redundancies- in the title, it would help if you read the links on how this was reported.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/maddie/2373773/How-Praia-da-Luz-turned-on-Maddie-McCann.html

This appears earlier in this topic.  Dated 13 Apr 2009, it covers the billboard, the posters, Gerrys return to Luz to help make Madeleine Was Here, and the 21 Ocean Club staff being laid off.

~Emotions are especially high at the Ocean Club complex from where she disappeared, where 21 employees have been sacked due to a downturn in trade.
The first line in the letters of dismissal blamed negative publicity caused by Maddie vanishing. Some workers heckled dad Gerry McCann, 40, during his recent surprise visit to film a reconstruction of events. Others are said to be considering legal action against the family for loss of income.
A middle-aged barmaid at the development’s empty tapas bar — which should be bustling with British tourists during the Easter holidays — revealed she is among those being let go on May 9.~

I just need to clarify the situation
When the papers write about you it's all lies
But at all other times it's true

That won't wash

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #163 on: November 04, 2016, 04:06:46 PM »
I just need to clarify the situation
When the papers write about you it's all lies
But at all other times it's true

That won't wash
What the papers wrote about me wasn't all lies.  Fortunately, they got some key bits correct, one being that I do not charge for tours.

Since the original source, The Mirror, had not spoken to me, they were forced to invent large chunks.  One example is that I take people inside the church, when I have never been inside the church in my life.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #164 on: November 04, 2016, 04:12:25 PM »
So you are basing your claim on a newspaper article in the Scottish Sun
Is this your only source
Need I point out to you how unreliable these articles are
It seems I do
The article is accurate in all other respects.

But if you choose to accept the bits that support the McCanns whilst you reject the bits that cast aspersions in the directions of the McCanns it simply means you are using dyed-in-the-wool McCann supporter tactics.
What's up, old man?