Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.

[faithlilly]

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You have claimed Luz admitted that the post you claim existed actually did exist. Unfortunately I failed to see  Luz's post so perhaps you would repost it ?

[Mo Stache]

You have claimed Luz admitted that the post you claim existed actually did exist. Unfortunately I failed to see  Luz's post so perhaps you would repost it ?

Angelo - I don't want to get involved in this spate but will point out merely that Luz admitted to posting on that account so it can only be hers.

You don't believe me, so maybe you will believe Angelo, because he also saw it.

[faithlilly]

You don't believe me, so maybe you will believe Angelo, because he also saw it.

TBH I don't mind who provides verification, just that someone does.

[Lace]

Then maybe one of those half a dozen people who saw Luz's alleged post will send a screenshot of it to you so you can post it here because until you do that your honesty, and integrity, will continue to be severely damaged by your unproven claims against another poster.

Yes and that's why the McCann's are suing Amaral because their honesty and integrity has been severely damaged.

[Redblossom]

Yes and that's why the McCann's are suing Amaral because their honesty and integrity has been severely damaged.

No one can damage anyones honesty or integrity, what a silly thing to say, it either exists or does not
 

[Lace]

No one can damage anyones honesty or integrity, what a silly thing to say, it either exists or does not
 

Lux has been accused of defacing the posters of Madeleine.      The McCann's have been accused of faking an abuduction and hiding Madeleine's body.

Someone could produce the e.mail that Lux sent,  showing Lux of being guilty of defacing the poster's.

The McCann's cannot produce the abductor.

Nothing was proven against the McCann's.

Now if Lux was taken to court and it was proven that she/he didn't deface the poster's then this person's honesty and integrity has been restored,   proving that all along this person was truthful.

Amaral wrote a book accusing the McCann's of faking the abduction and hiding Madeleine's body.  Also of giving the children calpol to sedate them.   Saying that they did do this,  even though the McCann's have said all along they are telling the truth, that he was wrong they didn't do this.

Many many people would believe what Amaral has written as he was the co-ordinator of the case,  he was respected as a senior officer.    Many many people would be saying the McCann's have not told the truth.

If Amaral loses the case then surely the honesty and integrity would be restored in part as some would say 'maybe they were telling the truth after all'   Amaral wrote this book and nothing was proved.

[Mo Stache]

Verification was provided by Luz herself. She has not denied the post exists. She has on more than one occasion said it exists, but that the author of the post wasn't her. She claims someone had used her 'name'/account to make the post. I don't see why people are still demanding to see the screenshot when Luz has verified it existed. Don't they believe Luz when she says it was made, but alledges it was made in her name but wasn't her? It would now seem that they are questioning the authenticity of everything Luz says. And wasn't that the point to begin with. Luz twists the truth so much, it would appear even those who support her don't even trust her when she acknowledges the post was made.   

[Angelo222]

I don't believe for a second that Luz damaged any posters.  She might have wanted to and boasted about doing so but that is where it ends.  Isn't that right Luz??

My question is, with all this money sitting dormant in a bank account wouldn't it be better used to search for Madeleine?  Why have they effectively abandoned her?

[Mo Stache]

I don't believe for a second that Luz damaged any posters.  She might have wanted to and boasted about doing so but that is where it ends.  Isn't that right Luz??

You are entitled to your own view, as are those who do believe she damaged the posters.

[Lace]

I don't believe for a second that Luz damaged any posters.  She might have wanted to and boasted about doing so but that is where it ends.  Isn't that right Luz??

My question is, with all this money sitting dormant in a bank account wouldn't it be better used to search for Madeleine?  Why have they effectively abandoned her?

What do you mean 'effectively abandoned her'?     SY have taken over for the time being.

[Mo Stache]

You are entitled to your own view, as are those who do believe she damaged the posters.

You edited your post after I replied to you, asking a question that is off topic for this thread. As a moderator should you not also be abiding by forum rules? 

[Angelo222]

You edited your post after I replied to you, asking a question that is off topic for this thread. As a moderator should you not also be abiding by forum rules?

My question isn't off topic.  Why haven't they replaced those billboards with something more substantial and less liable to be damaged.  Why have they not bought time on Portuguese TV channels promoting Madeleine?  Or is it a case of much ado about nothing?? 

[Mo Stache]

My question isn't off topic.  Why haven't they replaced those billboards with something more substantial and less liable to be damaged.  Why have they not bought time on Portuguese TV channels promoting Madeleine?  Or is it a case of much ado about nothing?? 

  Yes it is. That question addressed the "why didn't they search" issue. 

Here is the correct thread for that issue (mind you there has been a few threads on the searching issue) =
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2198.msg73585#msg73585


I don't know why they did what they did. I don't always agree with what they do. I can only assume that because of the strained relationship between the Portuguese and the McCann’s they thought it wouldn't help putting up posters less liable to be damaged. Or that it would cost too much. Remember there was a stage that the fund was almost depleted, pre book release. However, whatever they do it is always met with scrutiny. Why should they put up posters that can't be tampered with when it's common human decency not to deface posters in the first place?

They did do interviews on Portuguese TV. People forget they just parents. Not some professional PR machine. And the people they have employed along the way to help them, haven't always turned out to be there for them and acting in their best interests. That is no fault of theirs, they only human, they make mistakes, as was evident the night Madeleine disappeared. But, that does not automatically make them guilty of murdering her. There is a huge leap from 'making a terrible parenting mistake' to 'they killed their child'. And people tend to want to fill that gap with whatever they interpret the facts to be. And in that lies the problem. Those interpreting the facts are also human and can make mistakes. I believe Amaral made such a mistake. He misinterpreted the fact and based his theory on that misinterpretation. Unfortunately instead of back tracking and acknowledging this, he saw it as a means to use his right to freedom of expression and make some money. This intern has resulted in groups either in support of or against one of the parties. Those who can see the correct interpretation of facts and those who can't.

[Lyall]

You missed out abductors

[Lyall]

Give us a new theory Sadie. Take your mind off it