Author Topic: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?  (Read 43479 times)

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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 03:07:06 AM »
I think the point is that whilst dealing with their undoubted trauma the McCanns have,  in the past,  managed to cope with many public speaking events

The question is posed,  therefore,  ...   what is different this time  ?   

I think there is a big difference between chatting on a comfy sofa with Oprah or Richard and Judy, with the questions rehearsed and agreed upon in advance in co-operation with the host, and being tripped up in the witness box by grillers with no mercy.

In addition ,there is another layer of 'trauma' associated with court, namely that so much hangs on the outcome. If things don't go well on a chat show, the consequences aren't normally so profound.

icabodcrane

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Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 03:20:41 AM »
I think there is a big difference between chatting on a comfy sofa with Oprah or Richard and Judy, with the questions rehearsed and agreed upon in advance in co-operation with the host, and being tripped up in the witness box by grillers with no mercy.

In addition ,there is another layer of 'trauma' associated with court, namely that so much hangs on the outcome. If things don't go well on a chat show, the consequences aren't normally so profound.

If we make that distinction  ...  between  pre- agreed questioning,  and the unpredictable questioning that might happen in a court room  ...    then we we are not talking about  'trauma'  at all,  are we  ? 

We are talking about guile  ...  and an understanding of what is  'risky'  and what is not

Sitting on a couch with Oprah would be every bit as traumatic   (  given what the subject being discussed  )   ...   but nowhere near as risky

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2013, 03:29:19 AM »
If we make that distinction  ...  between  pre- agreed questioning,  and the unpredictable questioning that might happen in a court room  ...    then we we are not talking about  'trauma'  at all,  are we  ? 

We are talking about guile  ...  and an understanding of what is  'risky'  and what is not

Sitting on a couch with Oprah would be every bit as traumatic   (  given what the subject being discussed  )   ...   but nowhere near as risky

Guile...interesting way of putting it, Icabod.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2013, 07:33:42 AM »
If we make that distinction  ...  between  pre- agreed questioning,  and the unpredictable questioning that might happen in a court room  ...    then we we are not talking about  'trauma'  at all,  are we  ? 

We are talking about guile  ...  and an understanding of what is  'risky'  and what is not

Sitting on a couch with Oprah would be every bit as traumatic   (  given what the subject being discussed  )   ...   but nowhere near as risky

no we are talking about trauma...That's the answer to the question but if you don't want to accept it just carry on posting

Offline south of the river

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2013, 08:22:55 AM »
It does seem weird that of the two sides to this action McCann's vs. Amaral - that neither are going to actually be questioned in court ( as being reported )


stephen25000

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Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2013, 08:40:48 AM »
It does seem weird that of the two sides to this action McCann's vs. Amaral - that neither are going to actually be questioned in court ( as being reported )

I completely agree.

I also get the feeling that the outcome of the trial has already been determined.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2013, 10:26:44 AM »
It does seem weird that of the two sides to this action McCann's vs. Amaral - that neither are going to actually be questioned in court ( as being reported )

My sentiments precisely.  How can someone claim defamation if they don't even give evidence on their own behalf??  Really weird imo
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2013, 05:46:06 PM »
I completely agree.

I also get the feeling that the outcome of the trial has already been determined.

What do you mean it has already been determined?

Redblossom

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Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2013, 05:49:03 PM »
Their witnesses, I must say, reading the reports of what was said in court so far, has yielded nothing  solid, in fact they came over as not knowing their facts half the time, and the other half of the time what they were sayng seemed slightly irrelevant, very poor show.....so far
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2013, 05:58:08 PM »
Their witnesses, I must say, reading the reports of what was said in court so far, has yielded nothing  solid, in fact they came over as not knowing their facts half the time, and the other half of the time what they were sayng seemed slightly irrelevant, very poor show.....so far

on the other hand we have Amarals lawyer declaring that Maddie may still be alive and the judge referring to the McCanns as innocent...sounds as though its going very well to me

Redblossom

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Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2013, 06:04:33 PM »
on the other hand we have Amarals lawyer declaring that Maddie may still be alive and the judge referring to the McCanns as innocent...sounds as though its going very well to me

Youre entitled to your opinions and what his lawyer said amounts to nothing in the circumstances...no one has ever said they KNOW Madeleine is dead.....so that argument falls at the first hurdle

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2013, 06:56:09 PM »
Youre entitled to your opinions and what his lawyer said amounts to nothing in the circumstances...no one has ever said they KNOW Madeleine is dead.....so that argument falls at the first hurdle

have you been on the pop already...what about the dogs is all we hear... Amarals book claims Maddie died in the appt..the books called the truth



Redblossom

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Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2013, 07:01:58 PM »
have you been on the pop already...what about the dogs is all we hear... Amarals book claims Maddie died in the appt..the books called the truth

Personal jibe struck out

Amaral said everything he knows points him to that conclusion....he and his team  were  seasoned policeman and was their right  and duty to make any conclusiins they saw fit..fact remains he or no one else said ever as a fact they KNOW Madeleine is dead.....thats the point....which demolishes your one...its THEIR BUSINESS to come to conclusions, not hard to understand
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2013, 07:05:13 PM »

amaral being interviewed by flores, from the mccannfiles


MF – And you launch a "grenade" that is called The Truth of the Lie into the midst of that peace. Whoever reads your testimony is left with few doubts about the little girl's destiny. She died in the apartment.

GA – Do you doubt it?

MF – No. Neither I nor the older people who used to work with me. When this happened, I was in Greece and I heard the news through an English channel. The story was so badly told, that only a naive or silly person would believe it. As a matter of fact, when I arrived, I had dinner with several already retired colleagues that worked in homicides, and their opinion was the same. The detail about the window killed the version. Nobody passes through that narrow window space carrying a child.

Redblossom

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Re: Why Aren't the McCanns Giving Evidence at their Libel Trial ?
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2013, 07:06:14 PM »
amaral being interviewed by flores, from the mccannfiles


MF – And you launch a "grenade" that is called The Truth of the Lie into the midst of that peace. Whoever reads your testimony is left with few doubts about the little girl's destiny. She died in the apartment.

GA – Do you doubt it?

MF – No. Neither I nor the older people who used to work with me. When this happened, I was in Greece and I heard the news through an English channel. The story was so badly told, that only a naive or silly person would believe it. As a matter of fact, when I arrived, I had dinner with several already retired colleagues that worked in homicides, and their opinion was the same. The detail about the window killed the version. Nobody passes through that narrow window space carrying a child.


So what?
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SINCE WHEN has it been a crime for policemen to formulate theories, too funny, I suppose they should have just believed what the mccanns told them, LooooL, catch you later!


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