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AnneGuedes

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #360 on: November 11, 2013, 10:33:06 PM »
Thanks Anne. I'm still looking  ?{)(** Here's an interesting one "We did manage our early morning run today although not quite to the top of the hill due to time limitation."
I don't think you can find a sherlocklike clue in this blog, mainly directed to donators. It becomes interesting when you compare it to "Madeleine", as someone did on Pamalam's site.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #361 on: November 11, 2013, 10:34:48 PM »
The disclosure of posters names is off topic.
But it was an unbelievable reality all the same, John.

Aiofe

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #362 on: November 11, 2013, 10:34:52 PM »
To quote you "why it was done" ! Why exactly was it done and to who's benefit ?

At the time some of the worst defamation was going on. People were accusing the McCanns of wrapping her corpse in a dog and having it cremated in a dog cemetary, they were running 'guess the size of Kates tits' contests, 'kicking Gerry in the Goolies contests'. They were reporting Pro websites for non-existent infractions, tracking Pro's IDs and so on. They tried to force an office manage out of her job as she had typed an appeal letter possibly on a work laptop (I intervened personally in that one as I knew the firm of solicitors involved). It was also thought that letting them know how exposed they were would cut down the posting and abuse- it did, and led to the 3A's demise indirectly

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #363 on: November 11, 2013, 10:49:29 PM »
I don't think you can find a sherlocklike clue in this blog, mainly directed to donators. It becomes interesting when you compare it to "Madeleine", as someone did on Pamalam's site.

Did Pam get the alleged dumping fridge blog entry? Or is it a myth?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #364 on: November 11, 2013, 11:00:40 PM »
Did Pam get the alleged dumping fridge blog entry? Or is it a myth?
I really think any fridge is a (ghastly) myth !

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #365 on: November 11, 2013, 11:13:50 PM »
I really think any fridge is a (ghastly) myth !

Thanks. Who owned apartment 4a which they moved into on 4 May?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Cariad

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #366 on: November 12, 2013, 08:35:38 AM »
1/ In defence of the law and basic human morality
2/ Pissing off people who get their jollies from abusing innocent citizens
3/ Outwitting dumb believers
4/ Fun
5/ As an alternative to writing when my pain control is not working and I cannot concentrate on serious stuff- my facebook use goes up as well.

Misery loves company?

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #367 on: November 12, 2013, 11:58:58 AM »
I remember some of the early stuff written about the McCanns and I found it offensive as at that stage I genuinesly believed that Madeleine had mysteriously gone missing. I thought the abduction theory relatively unlikely on the basis that stranger abduction is unusual. But I considered it a possibility.

What I found odd was their early conclusion that it was a paedophile that abducted her - I did find that odd as I would have thought that they would want to believe in a less horrible outcome.

In fact, I defended there babysitting arrangements as to me they did not sound that different to the Mark Warner baby listening service that I used myself when the children were young. Nannies would patrol the corridors listening for crying but they didn't actually go into the room unless they heard crying. And obviously they could not be outside every room so there would be periods of time when your babies/children were effectively not that near a supervising adult. So it was a pretty ad hoc arrangement. And to my knowledge the security at the hotel was not particularly stringent - as it often isn't at hotels with people wandering in and out without being checked.

So, theoretically, an abduction could easily have happened. The fact that it never did is testament to the McCann's belief that stranger abduction is very unlikely indeed and therefore they would carry out their own baby listening.

Okay, as it happens their system appears to have been incredibly lax - they were quite far away etc; their children were left crying and so on.

But I always felt that accusing them solely on the basis of their baby listening arrangements was unfair. I mean, someone could break into your home and steal a child while you sleep. It is perfectly possible. Or into a school or any other setting. It can happen.

So - I had some sympathy for them on that score and thought: 'there but for the grace of God'.

However, once I started reading more about the case, I started to have doubts. I came to the conclusion that criticism over the baby listening  was all a bit of a red herring (although undoubtedly the baby listening arrangements are highly significant in this case, for all sorts of reasons). I started to believe that there was an altogether different scenario.

One that is very, very strange. I still cannot quite wrap my head around it, given that it encompasses so many people in powerful positions. Can they all be so gullible?

My darkest thoughts about the whole thing revolve around selling newspapers and air time; lining lawyers pockets;  lining detectives pockets (the Spanish detective company that achieved absolutely nothing and were being more than economical with the truth when they said they would have Madeleine back by Christmas.)

Even if you just focus on the McCanns choosing to hire there own firm of Spanish detectives - Metodo is it - who have been found to be....well........do your own research on them.......just that fact alone is fishy. How badly must that have hampered any proper police investigation? All those supposed sightings here, there and everywhere and all those media reports that were claiming that Madeleine was alive and well and spotted goodness knows where. That would hardly be consistent with a paedophile abduction, apart from anything else.

This has to be one of the weirdest cases ever.

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #368 on: November 12, 2013, 02:06:43 PM »
[What I found odd was their early conclusion that it was a paedophile that abducted her - I did find that odd as I would have thought that they would want to believe in a less horrible outcome.]

It's almost as odd as Kate washing Cuddle Cat - a mother's last real connection to her missing daughter Madeleine.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #369 on: November 13, 2013, 12:42:15 AM »
Indeed....your own child's scent and smell.........such a lovely thing.......why would you want to .....do that...

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #370 on: November 13, 2013, 12:53:24 AM »
It begins with the letter E.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #371 on: November 13, 2013, 12:56:19 AM »
Indeed....your own child's scent and smell.........such a lovely thing.......why would you want to .....do that...

But it wasn't her own child's scent and smell any more was it.   After being regularly carried around it had sun screen and her own scent  on it and no doubt was getting grubby.    That was not it's condition when Madeleine had it - so why not wash it  - so that it at least looked like it did when her daughter had it.

IMO this is just another example of nitpicking under the mantra that  'Everything the McCanns say is wrong and Everything they do is wrong.'    Just another stick to beat the McCanns with.   

     
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline puglove

Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #372 on: November 13, 2013, 01:12:20 AM »
But it wasn't her own child's scent and smell any more was it.   After being regularly carried around it had sun screen and her own scent  on it and no doubt was getting grubby.    That was not it's condition when Madeleine had it - so why not wash it  - so that it at least looked like it did when her daughter had it.

IMO this is just another example of nitpicking under the mantra that  'Everything the McCanns say is wrong and Everything they do is wrong.'    Just another stick to beat the McCanns with.   

     

Sorry, but with all due respect, if that toy was important to my child, and carried her scent, the last thing in the world that I would do would be to wash it. I might put it in a bag, and sniff it, but I wouldn't remove her last traces of it.

I certainly wouldn't wash it. What else was left?
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #373 on: November 13, 2013, 01:24:13 AM »
Sorry, but with all due respect, if that toy was important to my child, and carried her scent, the last thing in the world that I would do would be to wash it. I might put it in a bag, and sniff it, but I wouldn't remove her last traces of it.

I certainly wouldn't wash it. What else was left?

What I see are two people who can't stand each other, desperately trying to hold it all together, so that they can keep their media profile.

Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Benice

Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #374 on: November 13, 2013, 01:26:49 AM »
Sorry, but with all due respect, if that toy was important to my child, and carried her scent, the last thing in the world that I would do would be to wash it. I might put it in a bag, and sniff it, but I wouldn't remove her last traces of it.

I certainly wouldn't wash it. What else was left?

But you're not Kate are you and we are all different.     It obviously gave Kate comfort to carry CC around with her.  Why would anyone want to criticise her for that.       I'm sure there are other things belonging to Madeleine which are lovingly kept just as they were before she disappeared -  and will always be kept if she is not found.



 

 

 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal