What is it? Persecution or Harassment

[Lyall]

It is *not* being put across like that in TT's OP, Lyall.  TT is not lumping all sceptics together and blaming them for the stalking and harassment of Kate and Gerry McCann, the bulk of which was orchestrated by the floundation.

But why mention that at all when I think we can see from K McCann's book they faced far more serious problems - why not start a thread listing those? Or an thread listing both? Instead a thread was started which just listed the effects of the few online.

You can see the point.

[TTSOFAFM]

But why mention that at all when I think we can see from K McCann's book they faced far more serious problems - why not start a thread listing those? Or an thread listing both? Instead a thread was started which just listed the effects of the few online.

You can see the point.

Oh please Lyall, stop twisting words.  The McCanns were dealing with horrendous stuff, as clearly stated in her book.  A lot of the things I listed originated from the Madeleine Foundation who used to promote their cause of forums and blogs.  And they still do, albeit a lot quieter now that Mr Bennett has been put firmly in his place.

Whether people on forums, on blogs, or in their own home using pen and paper, do not have the right to persecute and hound a family of a missing child.  To do so is beyond contempt.  And I do wonder how people would feel if the shoe was on the other foot?   Would you like this happening to you if some tragic event happened in your life?

[Rachel Granada]

But why mention that at all when I think we can see from K McCann's book they faced far more serious problems - why not start a thread listing those? Or an thread listing both? Instead a thread was started which just listed the effects of the few online.

You can see the point.

It wasn't "online" though was it?  It was taken out into the community - to Rothley, to the Glenfied, the GMC, Social Services, the Committee.

[Lyall]

It wasn't "online" though was it?  It was taken out into the community - to Rothley, to the Glenfied, the GMC, Social Services, the Committee.

You can see right on cue TT does exactly what I say happens, and happens often - emotions from the past being used against completely unconnected posters in the present.

[TTSOFAFM]

But why mention that at all when I think we can see from K McCann's book they faced far more serious problems - why not start a thread listing those? Or an thread listing both? Instead a thread was started which just listed the effects of the few online.

You can see the point.

I did.  I mentioned the person jumping over the fence.

From Kate's book

On the Saturday I was bothered by a persistent caller (dubbed by Sean and Amelie ‘the man with the poorly head’), whose initially erratic behaviour ultimately became terrifying when he jumped over the fence into our back garden and tried to get into the house through the patio doors. His last act before being carted off by the local constabulary was to throw one of my large ceramic plant pots through the windscreen of my cousin Anne-Marie’s car, parked in our drive.

McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (p. 332). Random House UK. Kindle Edition.

[Rachel Granada]

You can see right on cue TT does exactly what I say happens, and happens often - emotions from the past being used against completely unconnected posters in the present.

Could you address my point rather than having a go at TT, please.

[Jazzy]

If I were involved in a case like this, yes I would. A crime was committed by somebody.

However it were a crime against you and your child, and you hadn't committed it, I doubt you would. I highly doubt a bunch of nutters threatening your family and posting leaflets at you neighbours houses and place of work would be in any way acceptable.

[Lyall]

I did.  I mentioned the person jumping over the fence.

From Kate's book

Fair enough. I thought that was supposed to also be 'one of us'

[Lyall]

Could you address my point rather than having a go at TT, please.

I addressed it earlier. That kind of activity and that group is history.

[TTSOFAFM]

However it were a crime against you and your child, and you hadn't committed it, I doubt you would. I highly doubt a bunch of nutters threatening your family and posting leaflets at you neighbours houses and place of work would be in any way acceptable.

Exactly 

How many posts are there on this thread, actually condemning the actions I listed.  I have read posts where people think the McCanns should have privacy and that people don't support  Mr Bennett and the Foundation.  But what about the actions taken by the Foundation members, do they agree with leafleting neighbours, people's places of work?  Not one comment about the plot to kidnap the twins. 

No condemnation about the letters written by not just supporters of Mr Bennett and the Madeleine Foundation, but other members of other forums with regards to trying to get Gerry McCann struck off, or the twins taken away because they felt the twins were not safe around the Kate and Gerry.

[Lyall]

It's history. Move on.

I suspect the other things K McCann writes about in the book probably aren't, they probably still go on. That's what you should be concerned with.

You're obsessed with the past

[gilet]

You can see right on cue TT does exactly what I say happens, and happens often - emotions from the past being used against completely unconnected posters in the present.

You are attempting to defend what is truly indefensible. No wonder you are failing.

Hounding, stalking, online abuse, libel, threats. They are simply wrong.

No arguments. No defence.

[Lyall]

You are attempting to defend what is truly indefensible. No wonder you are failing.

Hounding, stalking, online abuse, libel, threats. They are simply wrong.

No arguments. No defence.

It's in the past Move on.

And no I'm not defending it.

[TTSOFAFM]

It's in the past Move on.

And no I'm not defending it.

It maybe in the past.  But it should never have happened in the first place. 

[icabodcrane]

It maybe in the past.  But it should never have happened in the first place.

...  and no-one on this forum is saying it should have  ...  so why are you labouring the point here  ?