What is it? Persecution or Harassment

[gilet]

It's in the past Move on.

And no I'm not defending it.

It is not in the past. Posting such statements destroys any credibility you may have.

No-one reading #McCann on Twitter would believe you for a start.

[Rachel Granada]

I addressed it earlier. That kind of activity and that group is history.

So is the Holocaust, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting.

[gilet]

...  and no-one on this forum is saying it should have  ...  so why are you labouring the point here  ?

The point is that this section of the forum is about the whole history of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and whether you acknowledge it or not, the fact is that the persistent hounding of the parents of Madeleine McCann by sick or evil people has become entrenched within that history. 

It is very clear that you and Lyall are simply trying to brush this aspect of the case off and pretend it is irrelevant. It is not. 

It is at least in part a demonstration of the influence that certain particular individuals including Amaral have had on those who are easily swayed by theses pretending to be facts.

[Lyall]

So is the Holocaust, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting.

There are about 2200 or so days since they returned from Portugal, and you're obsessed by what happened on about a dozen of them.

That's not rational.

[carlymichelle]

There are about 2200 or so days since they returned from Portugal, and you're obsessed by what happened on about a dozen of them.

That's not rational.

dont forget either pro mcanns have harrased bullied slandered etc   those  of us   who dont believe the mcanns all over the internet that makes pros   just as bad if not worse imo  also posted  private data and databases

[icabodcrane]

The point is that this section of the forum is about the whole history of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and whether you acknowledge it or not, the fact is that the persistent hounding of the parents of Madeleine McCann by sick or evil people has become entrenched within that history. 

It is very clear that you and Lyall are simply trying to brush this aspect of the case off and pretend it is irrelevant. It is not. 

It is at least in part a demonstration of the influence that certain particular individuals including Amaral have had on those who are easily swayed by theses pretending to be facts.

Well then I misunderstood

I took it to be an inference that those people   (  any  people  )  who doubt and question the McCann's version of events are somehow   'tarred with the same brush'  as the obsessed  individuals who's activities are highlighted in the OP

Given that there is no-one here on Justice who  does not condemn those activities,  I really do not see the need to labour the point,  or, indeed to lecture us on it

[gilet]

Thank you. A few. So how can a few be the cause of harassment or persecution? 8-)(--)

Posts such as these show what little grasp of the law you have.

Section 7 of the act which relates to Harassment (Protection from Harassment Act 1997 states that:

'A “course of conduct” must involve conduct on at least two occasions.'

And for your information it only takes one person to harass another, or a group of others.

So a few is plenty.

[TTSOFAFM]

And carlymichelle you are right, Mccann supporters or whatever they were, hacked forums and other databases and stole personal information,

I am a McCann supporter, are you saying I hacked forums, stole databases and stole personal information?  Because I can assure you, I have never been involved in this kind of activity.  Your comment in respect to me is libellous and defamatory. 

[Redblossom]

I am a McCann supporter, are you saying I hacked forums, stole databases and stole personal information?  Because I can assure you, I have never been involved in this kind of activity.  Your comment in respect to me is libellous and defamatory.

Are you paranoid or something? Did I accuse you? No!
Thats  the second time today youhave misunderstood or pulled that stunt!

Anyway my personal though out balanced opinion is that you did though start this thread to create ill feeling, to spread negativity, to spread toxin on this forum, to tar people who dont believe the Mccann official sotry with the same brush as a few nutters, theres no getting away from that, and that I find peurile and despicable


Kate  Mccann has described these things in her book, the print media have reported on it, the tv had stories on it, various forums had the stories, why the need to dig up old miseries?
 >@@(*&)

[gilet]

Well then I misunderstood

I took it to be an inference that those people   (  any  people  )  who doubt and question the McCann's version of events are somehow   'tarred with the same brush'  as the obsessed  individuals who's activities are highlighted in the OP

Given that there is no-one here on Justice who  does not condemn those activities,  I really do not see the need to labour the point,  or, indeed to lecture us on it

This forum is not simply read by the posters on the forum though, is it?

[Redblossom]

as i said in a  earlier post/thread its very cult like behaviour isnt it

It is

It is a FACT that the so called pro mccanns are cultish as opposed to the fencers and anti mccanns who have varying ideas, but then there are a few who are willing to debate nicely

[Redblossom]

You may despair, but I suspect that is simply because you do not like the public who read here being reminded of the history of the anti McCann campaign.

If you think it irrelevant, that is your choice.

But others are not as familiar with the horrific hounding of the McCanns as you are and to try to cover up history as you are attempting is not a way of achieving real and full truth about anything.

Oh dont be so ridiculous, no one is tryng to cover up anythng that has been on the media and tv and on forums, and in kates book now as well, youre losing it gilet
 

What is it youwant? People to go self flagellate? The people that did those things and anyne else who posted on same forums they were on?? Even though they thought their actions were bad????
 

[carlymichelle]

Oh dont be so ridiculous, no one is tryng to cover up anythng that has been on the media and tv and on forums, and in kates book now as well, youre losing it gilet
 

What is it youwant? People to go self flagellate? The people that did those things and anyne else who posted on same forums they were on?? Even though they thought their actions were bad????
 

the pros also have to  remmeber it was not us who left maddie to her fate it as the mcanns so no use trying to blame us for the mcanns lack of childcare

[gilet]

Oh dont be so ridiculous, no one is tryng to cover up anythng that has been on the media and tv and on forums, and in kates book now as well, youre losing it gilet
 

What is it youwant? People to go self flagellate? The people that did those things and anyne else who posted on same forums they were on?? Even though they thought their actions were bad????
 

So what is your problem with these issues being aired here?

Why are you simply trying to close down discussion?

Don't you realise how bad that looks for anti McCanns?

What is most evident is the tip-toeing by anti McCanns around the issue of actually stating that the hounders and stalkers (and that includes those posting vicious and nasty abuse online and those who associate with the hounders and stalkers) by the terms most suitable for them. Horrid, grubby little people with no morals.

[TTSOFAFM]

 

Are you paranoid or something? Did I accuse you? No!
Thats  the second time today youhave misunderstood or pulled that stunt!

 

Paranoid. Definitely not.  Just don't like being grouped with people who are supposed to have also committed despicable acts.  Actually your post proved one thing.  During this thread people who don't support the McCanns did not like being lumped together with those people who carried out those atrocious acts against the family of a missing child.  And here you are doing exactly the same thing.

Lumping McCann supporters with people who have also committed acts that many don't approve of.

This thread is really getting to people.  Is it simply because reading what ordeal the McCanns have had to endure from people who don't believe Madeleine McCann was abducted, makes disgusting reading?