Author Topic: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?  (Read 11991 times)

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Lyall

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 11:32:56 AM »
But some seem to have taken Anne's comment literally.

Not difficult to see how myths are born...

 8((()*/ So true.

Redblossom

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2013, 11:33:37 AM »
URL of Anne's admission before it is removed:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2202.msg80795#msg80795

I have screen shot it anyway so removal now is pointless.

Arent you getting your photos mixed up, that referred to a picture of susan healy standing at the doorway to the entrance iirc, so not inside, what a much ado about nothing

Cariad

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2013, 11:34:01 AM »
Outside the court room, every space is PUBLIC, except WCs obviously.

Can you clarify for me please Luz, it's ok to take pictures inside the court building, just not the actually court room?

Offline Luz

Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2013, 11:34:57 AM »
Someone here explained Portuguese Law yesterday as to why the trial was taking place. The first trial disposed with the criminal libel and liability, this trial is about the civil libel and liability.

I've been saying that for ages. But when the criminal aspect of it was found not valid, the civil liability is almost if not  impossible to prove when there is no physical or objective damages that can be attributed to the event.

Lyall

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2013, 11:35:12 AM »
On reviewing the screenshot, it is not of Duarte, but of Mrs Healy. Definitely inside, definitely admitted by anne that it was illegal.

8)-))) Always check the evidence first.... and then check it again, prosecutor ?>)()<

Cariad

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2013, 11:35:24 AM »
On reviewing the screenshot, it is not of Duarte, but of Mrs Healy. Definitely inside, definitely admitted by anne that it was illegal.

So you finally accept that you were wrong? I might take a screen shot of this!

Offline Luz

Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2013, 11:37:57 AM »
Can you clarify for me please Luz, it's ok to take pictures inside the court building, just not the actually court room?

Yes it is. There has been plenty of occasions when journalists photograph and video in the atrium and in the corridors, sometimes even at the door of the Court Room with the door open.

Redblossom

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2013, 11:38:29 AM »
@)(++(*  we're  Famous !

How very petty of the McCann's lawyers   ...  "Take that photo of Isabel down or we'll sue you"

Jeezus  ...  was there ever a pair as litigeous as the McCanns

youd think they had more serious priorities

Cariad

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2013, 11:41:09 AM »
I was not wrong about the substance. You cannot see the woman's face as she is halfway through the door. I only identified her by her clothing.

Anne took a photo, knowing it was illegal, sent it here and had it published. It has been removed.

Yes it is. There has been plenty of occasions when journalists photograph and video in the atrium and in the corridors, sometimes even at the door of the Court Room with the door open.


Still wrong as Luz has just clarified for us. The photo That was of duaute was taken outside, the alleged photo taken inside wouldn't have been illegal anyway.

Thank you Luz.

icabodcrane

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2013, 11:42:59 AM »
youd think they had more serious priorities

Maybe it was a shot across the bows  ...  you know,  letting us know they're  'watching us' 

Anne and her uncensored court reports (  which are all over the internet now  )   has really  thrown a spanner in the works 

icabodcrane

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2013, 11:46:11 AM »
Such unbridled megalomania.

What do you think the footfall here and on CMOMM is- a few thousand a day?

Well the McCann lawyers seem to think we are worth some attention 

Lyall

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2013, 11:46:16 AM »
They have not sued:

Forums, Bloggers, Tweeters and other flea bites.

They have sued with people getting traction with libel.

My understanding was that they were advised to balance exposure caused by a trial which could be large against exposure on the web which was seen as minimal.

Only the Express Group, one TV Channel and some old solicitor from Essex were getting traction, and so the cost of excess press coverage for a week or so afterwards was worth it.

This does not mean that they may not go for any other person or entity getting traction in future.

This current threat is not of the McCann's doing.

First rule of law- don't pissoff a lawyer!

If exposure on the web is "minimal" what case do they have in Lisbon?

Mr Amaral had negligible to no presence in UK mass media after the shelving of the case.

Big flaw in the case here.

Offline Luz

Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2013, 11:47:30 AM »
This whole case is all about marketing. They keep promoting situations that give them their 15 minutes fame with the Media.

I've been trying to recover, unsuccessfully,  where I saw written that Isabel Duarte had asked that Gerald MacCann be heard in Court as a substitute for 2 of her witnesses that she had lost. If this is true, I think those 2 witnesses would be Mrs. Healy and Marinho Pinto. Obviously as she can't know if Marinho Pinto is going to show up or not in November, she would rather sacrifice Mrs. S. Healy, in my opinion.

Whatever happens the show must go on, and I fear we will have a lot more ridiculous incidents to comment. I call it ridiculous because none of this has to do with justice or with the search for a missing child, but with greed and resentment.

Redblossom

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Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 11:47:50 AM »
Maybe it was a shot across the bows  ...  you know,  letting us know they're  'watching us' 

Anne and her uncensored court reports (  which are all over the internet now  )   has really  thrown a spanner in the works

theyve watched internet forums from the beginning


Dont see why its a spanner, they wanted it open to the media/public and not closed....they got what they asked for. The MSM is a dying breed of info over the www now......including their poor kids alledgedly hearing their friends at school talking about it...whose fault is that....

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Has the McCann vs Gonçalo Amaral libel trial become a comedy of errors?
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2013, 11:56:14 AM »
I have already deleted one account today for posting falsehoods so be warned.

First off, an unspecified threat was made on twitter stating that if his photo wasn't removed by noon that he would take further action.  Read into that whatever you may.

Secondly, the photo of the individual concerned was taken outside the court precincts (a public place) and with their full knowledge.

Finally, please ensure posts are relevant as non topic posts are routinely removed.

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