Author Topic: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?  (Read 52064 times)

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Offline Benice

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2013, 09:30:30 PM »
Yes, why didn't the McCann's & their friends do a reconstruction while they were still in Portugal?

It seems like an obvious thing to do, with all the worlds cameras there, the media could of helped, maybe jog the public's memory & appeal for witnesses,

They didn't do it because they knew it would expose the holes in their statements.

Ask Amaral, the group expected to do a recon soon after Madeleine had disappeared - when it might have helped, but the PJ decided not to hold one because it would disrupt the tourist trade.   So no blame on the McCanns or their friends for that decision.       



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2013, 09:35:19 PM »
Ask Amaral, the group expected to do a recon soon after Madeleine had disappeared - when it might have helped, but the PJ decided not to hold one because it would disrupt the tourist trade.   So no blame on the McCanns or their friends for that decision.       





And when the rogatory letters were sent, requesting they return to portugal, what happened then?
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Lyall

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2013, 09:35:29 PM »
Ask Amaral, the group expected to do a recon soon after Madeleine had disappeared - when it might have helped, but the PJ decided not to hold one because it would disrupt the tourist trade.   So no blame on the McCanns or their friends for that decision.     

Big flaw in your logic Benice. It's now six years on but Crimewatch will it says include some kind of reconstrction, as SY feels it may help.

That's six years on.

You guys ask what use would the proposed one have been one year on.

I don't see you now asking SY what use Crimewatch will be >@@(*&)

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2013, 09:38:21 PM »
For the MCanns to have concealed (and possibly harmed) their daughter, then devoted the past six years of their lives to a highly taxing international media charade and financial fraud on a major scale, both of them would have to be seriously mentally ill. And there is just no evidence of that whatsoever.

Offline Carana

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2013, 09:39:20 PM »
They could have had the investigation re opened at any time,
All they had to do was cooperate with the Portuguese police,
If they had nothing to hide & they really thought she could be found alive, they would have done so.

Could you please provide a cite from the criminal process code that states that an investigation can be reopened at any time without any relevant new evidence to challenge the original decision?



Lyall

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2013, 09:42:03 PM »
Someone with something to hide wouldn't have kept this whole case going for over 6 years if not to find their daughter.

Seriously, they have pushed, petitioned and asked for help from many quarters. They have never let it fade away.

The petition was for a Review -the hope was a Re-opening of the investigation into Madeline's abduction.

Are these the actions of guilty people?

If it were me and I had gotten away with a serious crime, probably not immediately, but at the right time I would let it fade and leave the country. Not keep on about it for six years

And please don't insult the intelligence of people on this forum by the usual  "they dun it for the money" posts as that is total nonsense.

Have to go out now Ill leave you with it. Cheerio.

....heading edited slightly....

Consider Ben the reports from Lisbon that indicate their concern about what their other children will read and perhaps watch in the future. Do you maybe see a motive now?
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 01:01:42 AM by John »

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2013, 10:10:10 PM »
For the MCanns to have concealed (and possibly harmed) their daughter, then devoted the past six years of their lives to a highly taxing international media charade and financial fraud on a major scale, both of them would have to be seriously mentally ill. And there is just no evidence of that whatsoever.

Seriously mentally ill, no.
Devious, sly, cunning , willing to do anything to save their own skin?  Possibly.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2013, 10:38:59 PM »
Could you please provide a cite from the criminal process code that states that an investigation can be reopened at any time without any relevant new evidence to challenge the original decision?



The case was shelved because of lack of evidence was it not,
That being the evidence Kate & Gerry were unwilling to share, if they had told the truth, the case would not have been shelved.
If they decided to tell the truth at a later date, that would be relevant evidence to challenge the original decision.
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icabodcrane

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2013, 10:56:34 PM »
I agree totally with that. They didn't invent the media circus nor anticipated it. Once they pronounced the shutters and window forced and the child abducted from bed they were in a no-return process.

I disagree with that Anne

I think the media circus was more than just  'anticipated'  ...  I think it was invited  (  within hours  )

There is simply no other explanation for the press being on their doorstep before the McCanns had even set foot inside Portimao police station

What motivated that invitation is debatable  ...  but that the media were informed by the McCann camp  very  early on,  is beyond question

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2013, 10:57:34 PM »
I disagree with that Anne

I think the media circus was more than just  'anticipated'  ...  I think it was invited  (  within hours  )

There is simply no other explanation for the press being on their doorstep before the McCanns had even set foot inside Portimao police station

What motivated that invitation is debatable  ...  but that the media were informed by the McCann camp  very  early on,  is beyond question

Amen
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AnneGuedes

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2013, 10:58:12 PM »

It was the Pope who asked to see the McCann's not vise versa.   The Pope showed an interest in the Madeleine McCann case and asked to see them.    Should they have refused?
First time I see this.
The Pope showed such interest in Madeleine McCann that he had her parents' appeal erased from the Vatican site as soon as they were made arguidos, though little Madeleine was still missing and in spite of Christian charity..

ferryman

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2013, 10:59:06 PM »
I agree totally with that. They didn't invent the media circus nor anticipated it. Once they pronounced the shutters and window forced and the child abducted from bed they were in a no-return process.

Where is it recorded that they said anything to police about forced/jemmied windows?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2013, 11:02:22 PM »
I agree totally with that. They didn't invent the media circus nor anticipated it. Once they pronounced the shutters and window forced and the child abducted from bed they were in a no-return process.

Where is it recorded that they said anything to police about forced/jemmied windows?

As I recall, it wasn't the police that were told but the press, I believe it was one of their relatives in the UK that stated it.
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icabodcrane

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2013, 11:02:32 PM »
I agree totally with that. They didn't invent the media circus nor anticipated it. Once they pronounced the shutters and window forced and the child abducted from bed they were in a no-return process.

Where is it recorded that they said anything to police about forced/jemmied windows?

Who  did  they say it to then  ? 

...  and if they said it to others  (  family members and friends in the many  phone calls they made that night  )    ...  why  DIDN'T  they say it to the police  ? 

AnneGuedes

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Re: Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2013, 11:12:15 PM »
I disagree with that Anne

I think the media circus was more than just  'anticipated'  ...  I think it was invited  (  within hours  )

There is simply no other explanation for the press being on their doorstep before the McCanns had even set foot inside Portimao police station

What motivated that invitation is debatable  ...  but that the media were informed by the McCann camp  very  early on,  is beyond question
The McCann camp sure (though we know Mr McCann does things by proxy), but I'm prone to think it worked beyond any possible hope (thanks to the basic ingredients of any collective belief) and went to their heads.