Would a guilty person have kept the case alive for 6 years?

[Redblossom]

Wasn't there a long and convoluted argument a couple of days ago about how JT could be 80% sure that cooperman and Bundleman were the same guy, even though she didn't see his face, cause the face was only 20% of the overall description?

yes I dont remember the thread, but the poiht in discussion was that Jane Tanner never saw the mans face but when shown a photofit of george harrison creepy cooperman complete with handlebar moustache said she was, according to gerry mccanns/mitchells whoever it was powerpoint presentation to the press conference, she said it bore an 80 per cent resemblance to the man she saw.....and some posters came on and said that 80 per cent must have had to do with his height way of walking etc, anything but his face..they forgot the cooperwomans efit showed a man whose hair was like being dragged throug a hedge backwards and tannsrs sketch was of a sleek and coiffured bob

[AnneGuedes]

Why do you suppose they made a direct appeal to the Prime Minister to get the Met to look at the case?

The appeal to the PM seems to mean they are innocent, isn't it ? Hence...

[Victoria]

The appeal to the PM seems to mean they are innocent, isn't it ? Hence...

I see. So doing something that makes them look innocent is evidence of guilt. And presumably if they hadn't made such an appeal and instead let the story die down, that would be evidence they were trying to get away with it and also evidence of guilt.

Remember, a witch will have one place on their body where they don't bleed, so keep on stabbing!

[Wonderfulspam]

Why do you suppose they made a direct appeal to the Prime Minister to get the Met to look at the case?

They wanted to clear their names, maybe they thought if they managed to dupe the PJ, they could somehow do the same with the Met. I dont think they thought it through very well.

Sun Newspaper, The Murdoch Empire had copies of the files when they were made public.
They have seen the murky events & actions of the T9.
Rebekah Brooks 'persuaded' her old pal Cameron to open the review into the nasty saga at de Luz, in return for favourable reporting.
They made a miserly few hundred thousand on serializing Kates (ill thought out) book,  and they are safe in the knowledge that when the Met investigation reaches its finale, they will have played a part in getting the truth out & in doing so will dodge some of the inevitable & immense public backlash they will receive.

The Sun supported Gerry & Kate,
Gerry & Kate squealed on the press at Leveson,  It may almost be payback time.

[Kazcutt]

I think if someone was guilty or innocent they would carry on for years I do think there are lots to wonder about the mccanns .the only thing I do not get is if they were involved how did they manage to get so many people to help cover up .

[Redblossom]

I think if someone was guilty or innocent they would carry on for years I do think there are lots to wonder about the mccanns .the only thing I do not get is if they were involved how did they manage to get so many people to help cover up .

Perhaps no one covered up.....

[AnneGuedes]

I see. So doing something that makes them look innocent is evidence of guilt. And presumably if they hadn't made such an appeal and instead let the story die down, that would be evidence they were trying to get away with it and also evidence of guilt.

Remember, a witch will have one place on their body where they don't bleed, so keep on stabbing!

First I said nothing allowing you to conclude that "doing something that makes them look etc." and secondly your witch suggestion is unacceptable, Victoria.

[AnneGuedes]

Perhaps no one covered up.....

I quite agree with that. There are things that you do alone or don't do.

[Mr Gray]

I quite agree with that. There are things that you do alone or don't do.

Well that's the pact of silence myth debunked

[Kazcutt]

Perhaps no one covered up.....

They must of got help if they were involved ,to hide and remove a body while your on holiday ? They couldnt have done alone

[Redblossom]

They must of got help if they were involved ,to hide and remove a body while your on holiday ? They couldnt have done alone

You dont know that at all or anything else regarding what they knew and did in that holiday and whi they knew  and others there before it...as Anne said aboce, two people or one even can hide something they know if self and family preservation  is the goal

[Lyall]

Welcome OpenMinded. Great post, and I agree with your points. It's certainly wise to open minded about what people think are facts in this case.

[icabodcrane]

That's a well thought through first post OpenMinded   (  I always think   'fence-sitters'  thoughts are the most interesting  )   

Thankyou,  and welcome to the forum 

[C.Edwards]

Yes, he's been ruled out. The Met have told us the parents aren't suspects and witnesses place him in the restaurant at the time of the sighting.

The Met thought de Menezes was a terrorist. They make mistakes. I'm not saying they have done here, but it's possible.  Need I mention the Dando case too?  Can we, for the sake of discussion (otherwise if we took your beliefs at face value we'd have nothing whatsoever to talk about and could all go home) assume that there are some of us that don't have the same faith in Redwood's statement about the parents & friends?

Also if you would be so good as to join in with the relevant thread about Gerry McCann and the 10 O'Clock whereabouts, that would be a good addition to the discussion I think. 

[AnneGuedes]

I also think it is probable that the McCanns and tapas 7 haven't been 100% honest.

Welcome Openminded !
May I ask why you are putting the TP9 in the same not 100% honest "bag" ? Are they tied by solidarity in your... open mind ?