Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?

[Benice]

What is the most specific and expressive part of the human being ? His arms, trunk, legs, belly... etc.  or his face ?

Nitpicking Anne?     Regardless of what part of a body is most expressive in your opinion , JT could only describe what she saw of the man - and it did not include his face.   Her estimate of 80% covered that fact.

[Lyall]

Nitpicking Anne?     Regardless of what part of a body is most expressive in your opinion , JT could only describe what she saw of the man - and it did not include his face.   Her estimate of 80% covered that fact.

So what happened to that suspect? It's not been mentioned for years. It isn't on the website, or in the book.

[sadie]

They don't????????  Really??????   Your lead investigator was known for drinking, under investigation for brutalisation, his crime scene treated like an ashtray and at the end of it all - he could not build a case against ANYONE not EVEN the McCanns and was sacked from the job!!!!   Yet, your laws sat back and allowed him to write and publish a book accusing the family of murder - plus watched him make numerous daytime TV/video appearances and now you are calling SY a circus and a soap opera......  Are you actually for real?

Welcome kmc

Excellent analysis.   Good to have new blood on board

[Lyall]

Excellent ranting more like Not to be taken seriously.

[AnneGuedes]

They don't????????  Really??????   Your lead investigator was known for drinking, under investigation for brutalisation, his crime scene treated like an ashtray and at the end of it all - he could not build a case against ANYONE not EVEN the McCanns and was sacked from the job!!!!   Yet, your laws sat back and allowed him to write and publish a book accusing the family of murder - plus watched him make numerous daytime TV/video appearances and now you are calling SY a circus and a soap opera......  Are you actually for real?

I'm not Portuguese so I'm not concerned by "your". I reckon that you unfairly and without any evidence accuse someone who isn't on this forum to reply. Bravo !
About the crime scene, Mr McCann was the first person to mess it manipulating the shutters from the outside ! He surely had a good reason for this, don't you think ?

[AnneGuedes]

So what happened to that suspect? It's not been mentioned for years. It isn't on the website, or in the book.

Faceless persons aren't easily talked about..
The face is so essential that, in France, women aren't allowed to wear a hijab or a niqab in the public space.

[AnneGuedes]

This programme has resulted in the apprehension of many criminals over the years who would still be free if Crimewatch did not exist.

Do you have some stats about this, Benice ? I really wonder to how much tattling this could lead.

[Benice]

I'm not Portuguese so I'm not concerned by "your". I reckon that you unfairly and without any evidence accuse someone who isn't on this forum to reply. Bravo !
About the crime scene, Mr McCann was the first person to mess it manipulating the shutters from the outside ! He surely had a good reason for this, don't you think ?

Yes he was trying to find out whether they could be opened from the outside.  Not surprising that he should take every action possible to ascertain the facts  - considering his little girl had disappeared from that bedroom.   To accuse any of the family or friends of messing up the crime scene is completely unfair - as it was not a crime scene until AFTER is was established that Madeleine was not in the apartment or in close proximity and they could not do that without first searching every room.   They were not policemen nor should they be expected to think like policeman in such an horrendous situation 

The fact that the police who arrived also searched the whole apartment and allowed all and sundry in is open to criticism - as they were   policemen and should have known better.

[Benice]

Do you have some stats about this, Benice ? I really wonder to how much tattling this could lead.

No I don't Anne -  but Crimewatch regularly devotes part of their programme to updating the public on their success in apprehending criminals - as a direct result of information received from the Public when phoning in.

[AnneGuedes]

How could they don't know if Portugal was behind them or not if they have been in touch with Portugal for more than an year?!
But of course that Portugal would not embark on some silly Crimewatch show for TV consumption when there is still a demand for a legal, formal reconstitution to be made if/when the process is re-opened.

Yes of course, SY is in regular contact with the Porto team since the beginning of the review.
Enough was watching Channel 4 so-called reconstruction to conclude they can effectively do it anywhere, even in Alaska, for what it's worth.

[AnneGuedes]

No I don't Anne -  but Crimewatch regularly devotes part of their programme to updating the public on their success in apprehending criminals - as a direct result of information received from the Public when phoning in.

Have you seen how many phone calls they're expecting ! What are these phone calls (but possibly one) actually ? I don't find it healthy.

[Benice]

Have you seen how many phone calls they're expecting ! What are these phone calls (but possibly one) actually ? I don't find it healthy.

No I haven't Anne, I've got a bit tired with all the abuse and wild speculation about this programme which hasn't even been aired yet.      I prefer to just wait and see - and of course hope that something good comes out of it.

[ferryman]

Call me cynical if you want but are the latest moves by Scotland Yard in some way connected with the ongoing libel trial being undertaking in Lisbon?  The total absence of British Press at the Palace of Justice on Tuesday this week was very noticeable as was the decision by the plaintiffs and their lead lawyer to boycott the proceedings.

Does anyone think that these events will have some bearing on the much talked about Anglo Portuguese cooperation we keep hearing about in the British Press?



_{McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell and their PI Dave Edgar hold up a copy of a previous e-fit.}

I've not read the rest of the thread, but behave, John.

If Amaral had played ball from the beginning, the libel trial would have been done and dusted months or years ago (I lose track).

As it stands, Amaral now has against him, not only the Panarama programme and Met review, but also the full conclusions of the Leveson enquiry and the clear and unmistakable evidence that the PJ leaked.

Amaral has no one to blame but himself (and his team)

[Jazzy]

I'm not Portuguese so I'm not concerned by "your". I reckon that you unfairly and without any evidence accuse someone who isn't on this forum to reply. Bravo !
About the crime scene, Mr McCann was the first person to mess it manipulating the shutters from the outside ! He surely had a good reason for this, don't you think ?

Yet you accuse the Mccanns?

[Angelo222]

I've not read the rest of the thread, but behave, John.

If Amaral had played ball from the beginning, the libel trial would have been done and dusted months or years ago (I lose track).

As it stands, Amaral now has against him, not only the Panorama programme and Met review, but also the full conclusions of the Leveson enquiry and the clear and unmistakable evidence that the PJ leaked.

Amaral has no one to blame but himself (and his team)

You mean capitulate ferryman?? 

You might not have noticed old chap but Portuguese courts take no notice of the BeeB or the Keystone Cops.  Even the judge at the libel trial is now saying that Amaral's book contained nothing new and was based totally on the official process.

They lost the book embargo and now the libel trial is going the same way...shame.