Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?

[jassi]

Perhaps Crimewatch will run a slightly different version and catch people on the hop

[Luz]

I think that a lot of things have been adjusted to coincide including the NCA launching last Saturday - it is supposed to the UK's new equivalent to the FBI and focuses on international crime including human trafficking.  Also, if SY made the CrimeWatch show six months ago they would have had to film somewhere like Spain because at that stage they had no idea whether Portugal would get behind them or not.  What it does indicate is that we are looking at a very carefully thought out and timed campaign....I think something big is coming.  I hope so anyway!

How could they don't know if Portugal was behind them or not if they have been in touch with Portugal for more than an year?!
But of course that Portugal would not embark on some silly Crimewatch show for TV consumption when there is still a demand for a legal, formal reconstitution to be made if/when the process is re-opened.

[Luz]

If in any way or form the SY is supporting this Crimewatch soap opera, I'm afraid the relations between the 2 countries will change dramatically in relation to the investigation of this case.

Portuguese laws do not allow such mediatic circuses. If in any way not previously disclosed information is used or if British police get involved in this, I fear the co-operation will be over.

[Benice]

Yes the mccanns think the smiths saw the tanner man.....be interestng to see the e fit and it it looks like black glossy bob haired man  also if it looks like cooperman george harrison who tanner said looked 80% like the man she saw even if she NEVER saw his face and also missed his massive handlebar moustache but noticed there was no creases in his trousers dear god!!!

 

She agreed that 80% of the e-fit was OK -  the 20% that she could not comment on was his face - because she didn't see it.  Simples.

[Lyall]

She agreed that 80% of the e-fit was OK -  the 20% that she could not comment on was his face - because she didn't see it.  Simples.

Did she ever actually say that herself, or did CM just claim it?

[kmc]

She agreed that 80% of the e-fit was OK -  the 20% that she could not comment on was his face - because she didn't see it.  Simples.

 

Joana Morais site has an article about CrimeWatch going out in Germany and quotes a German newspaper;   "exact analysis of the files" that brought new leads, and for "the first time a trail leads to Germany". In the programme, two e-fits of men are shown for the first time; they apparently "spoke German" and had not been in the focus of the investigation yet."   

[AnneGuedes]

Les boutons n'importe quoi, Anne!  <the buttons mean nothing>


Also looking forward to Crimewatch and any new information that it may bring in the search for Madeleine.

I agree the buttons aren't as crucial as making a Gerrylookalike who doesn't look like Gerry!

[AnneGuedes]

She agreed that 80% of the e-fit was OK -  the 20% that she could not comment on was his face - because she didn't see it.  Simples.

What is the most specific and expressive part of the human being ? His arms, trunk, legs, belly... etc.  or his face ?

[kmc]

If in any way or form the SY is supporting this Crimewatch soap opera, I'm afraid the relations between the 2 countries will change dramatically in relation to the investigation of this case.

Portuguese laws do not allow such mediatic circuses. If in any way not previously disclosed information is used or if British police get involved in this, I fear the co-operation will be over.

'Portuguese laws do not allow such mediatic circuses' ..... Really?? Why then didn't they lock up the clown who they put in charge of running the circus? 

[AnneGuedes]

If in any way or form the SY is supporting this Crimewatch soap opera, I'm afraid the relations between the 2 countries will change dramatically in relation to the investigation of this case.

Portuguese laws do not allow such mediatic circuses. If in any way not previously disclosed information is used or if British police get involved in this, I fear the co-operation will be over.

I think the trial will be crucial, Luz. Crimewatch circus is pure pacotille.

[AnneGuedes]

'Portuguese laws do not allow such mediatic circuses' ..... Really?? Why then didn't they lock up the clown who they put in charge of running the circus?

In fact they don't. A country has to have a superior idea of itself to allow media circus to prosper. The old trick : bread and games.
Some people should reflect about this if they really intend to make their voices be heard.

[Carana]

If in any way or form the SY is supporting this Crimewatch soap opera, I'm afraid the relations between the 2 countries will change dramatically in relation to the investigation of this case.

Portuguese laws do not allow such mediatic circuses. If in any way not previously disclosed information is used or if British police get involved in this, I fear the co-operation will be over.

Several police officers have appeared on the programme from the studio, including David Hatcher, Helen Phelps, Jeremy Payne, Jacqui Hames, Jonathan Morrison, Jane Corrigan, and Rav Wilding. For many years the programme also included antiques experts John Bly, Eric Knowles and Paul Hayes to help with 'treasure trove' details of recovered goods believed to have been stolen, to trace owners.[6]

Despite initial police concerns about involvement[4] (only three forces out of more than 40 agreed to participate at first) Crimewatch developed a special status with police and was credited with an expertise of its own, notably through Nick Ross' long experience with public appeals. Unlike the American equivalent based on Crimewatch, America's Most Wanted, Crimewatch itself usually appeals for unsolved cases, inviting viewers to be armchair detectives. According to the producers, about a third of its cases are solved, half of those as a direct result of viewers' calls. Its successes have included some of Britain's most notorious crimes, including the kidnap of Stephanie Slater and murder of Julie Dart, the M25 rapist, the road-rage killing by Kenneth Noye, and the capture of two boys for the abduction and murder of James Bulger.

Over the years, Crimewatch has featured appeals from all 43 police forces in the country. 1 in 3 appeals leads to an arrest and 1 in 5 lead to a conviction. 4 or 5 requests to air appeals are received from police forces every day.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimewatch

[Benice]

Did she ever actually say that herself, or did CM just claim it?

It's obvious that JT could not say the E-fit was 100% OK,  because it included details of the man's face which she had not seen.   But she could comment on the rest of it.    Therefore she agreed with 80% of it - i.e. everything except the face.    I can't understand why that is so difficult to understand.   

[kmc]

In fact they don't. A country has to have a superior idea of itself to allow media circus to prosper. The old trick : bread and games.
Some people should reflect about this if they really intend to make their voices be heard.

They don't????????  Really??????   Your lead investigator was known for drinking, under investigation for brutalisation, his crime scene treated like an ashtray and at the end of it all - he could not build a case against ANYONE not EVEN the McCanns and was sacked from the job!!!!   Yet, your laws sat back and allowed him to write and publish a book accusing the family of murder - plus watched him make numerous daytime TV/video appearances and now you are calling SY a circus and a soap opera......  Are you actually for real?   

[Benice]

How could they don't know if Portugal was behind them or not if they have been in touch with Portugal for more than an year?!
But of course that Portugal would not embark on some silly Crimewatch show for TV consumption when there is still a demand for a legal, formal reconstitution to be made if/when the process is re-opened.

Why would you describe Crimewatch as ''some silly show'?    This programme has resulted in the apprehension of many criminals over the years who would still be free if Crimewatch did not exist.