Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??

[AnneGuedes]

Or, if you're dead common like me, you could say "piss or get off the pot."     

This time I'll be dead common then.

[AnneGuedes]

At least they'd have the good sense not to use the word intelligence.

[kmc]

SY don't bring in CPS unless they have a known suspect/suspects in the frame and sufficient evidence to go for a conviction.   I would put money on Crimewatch being a chance to "widen the net" because they believe they are dealing with a larger "organisation"..... make no mistake, in my opinion, they already know the person/couple/trio who abducted her and they have probably been preparing international arrest warrants for months.

[AnneGuedes]

SY don't bring in CPS unless they have a known suspect/suspects in the frame and sufficient evidence to go for a conviction.   I would put money on Crimewatch being a chance to "widen the net" because they believe they are dealing with a larger "organisation"..... make no mistake, in my opinion, they already know the person/couple/trio who abducted her and they have probably been preparing international arrest warrants for months.

Would it be safe for the little one ? Isn't she priority ? Do international arrests need CW to be made effective ?

[AnneGuedes]

I have made it very clear why I am not saying. If that is not good enough for you hard luck.

That was crystal clear why you were not saying. But why exactly did you say you knew something you couldn't say ?

[sadie]

SY don't bring in CPS unless they have a known suspect/suspects in the frame and sufficient evidence to go for a conviction.   I would put money on Crimewatch being a chance to "widen the net" because they believe they are dealing with a larger "organisation"..... make no mistake, in my opinion, they already know the person/couple/trio who abducted her and they have probably been preparing international arrest warrants for months.

My thoughts exactly


..... But we shall see.......

[Sherlock Holmes]

My thoughts exactly


..... But we shall see.......

Very interesting, Sadie.

Fluffy slippers ready.

[AnneGuedes]

Because it is a technique that has been used in other cases and if it has been referred to other than where I found it, then it would no longer be sensitive and I could confirm, knowing that someone else knew and that the sensitivity over it has ended. So far nobody has indicated that its use in this case is known about. Hence I am not saying.

You're answering my question :
But why exactly did you say you knew something you couldn't say ?

[AnneGuedes]

Fine. My answer remains the same. They asked for sensitivity and are getting it. You don't like that, I really don't care. If I see it mentioned, I'll confirm it. That is all that is on offer.

You don't understand : the question isn't what you know or ignore.
Why do you claim you know things that for whatever reason you don't want to reveal. Is it to attract attention on you ?

[icabodcrane]

Is this really the best the @BBC could have produced?

A comedy of errors??



The 30-second promo clip shown by the BBC countless times yesterday is not a promising sign.

The child carried the wrong way round according to Jane Tanner's discredited evidence.

Madeleine's bed laying against built-in-cupboards - inaccurate.

A bright shaft of light on Madeleine's bed - inaccurate.

If there are at least three basic errors in a 30-second clip, goodness knows how many there will be in a 30-minute programme.

Well there is the short clip of Madeleine collecting tennis balls

The clip shows Kate and Gerry playing tennis together,  apparently in the evening  (  with long shadows being cast  )

In fact,  the photo of Madeleine carrying the tennis balls was taken by Kate  ...  who  was  not   playing tennis

The occasion was Tuesday morning  (  1st of May  )  when Gerry was having a tennis lesson from 10.15am and Madeleine was taking part in a mini-club  session on an adjoining court with other children

The Crime watch programme is billed as showing a reconstruction of events leading up to and surrounding Madeleine's disappearance

What is the signigicance of the 'tennis ball collecting'  episode which happened two days before,   and why has it been depicted inaccurately  ?

[icabodcrane]

   Maybe it has not been depicted inaccurately.

   Maybe the statements re the tennis and Maddie's whereabouts are inaccurate.

    After all, aren't SY saying that what has been accepted by the public is NOT TRUE ?

Maybe

It was interesting that Redwood emphasised the timeline they were investigating, specifically,  was between 8.30pm and 10pm

He says that 8.30  was when the McCanns went to dinner,  and 10pm was when Madeleine was reported as missing

What about Gerry's  9.15pm visit to the apartment then ?  when he says Madeleine was alive and well, tucked up in bed

Surely that would put the crucial time to focus on  as between  9.15pm and 10pm 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Maybe

It was interesting that Redwood emphasised the timeline they were investigating, specifically,  was between 8.30pm and 10pm

He says that 8.30  was when the McCanns went to dinner,  and 10pm was when Madeleine was reported as missing

What about Gerry's  9.15pm visit to the apartment then ?  when he says Madeleine was alive and well, tucked up in bed

Surely that would put the crucial time to focus on  as between  9.15pm and 10pm

Wasn't the principal time of interest always 8.30 - 10?

[Victoria]

This is looking even more significant a breakthrough than I first hoped. How advanced was triangulation back in 2007? How precisely are they able to place phones within the town? And perhaps more importantly, did they also gather data from surrounding areas, or is it available now, in order to see not just who was in PDL at the time in question, but who also left the town that night?

[sadie]

SY don't bring in CPS unless they have a known suspect/suspects in the frame and sufficient evidence to go for a conviction.   I would put money on Crimewatch being a chance to "widen the net" because they believe they are dealing with a larger "organisation"..... make no mistake, in my opinion, they already know the person/couple/trio who abducted her and they have probably been preparing international arrest warrants for months.

Please correct me, if I am wrong, but I think that Jane returned later to relieve Russell, so that he could get his meal ,

Heri thought that it was later and IIRC thought it tied in with Janes later trip.  Presumeably he thought that she had misremembered which trip it was and mistakenly tied it inn with when she passed Gerry and Jez chatting

Only assumptions about Jane on my behalf .... but i do seem to remember that Heri was on to it, timewise. 

Maybe he got the whole lifting theory right? 

An extra-ordinarily clever guy is Heri.  Such a shame peeps upset him and he left

[Cariad]

Maybe

It was interesting that Redwood emphasised the timeline they were investigating, specifically,  was between 8.30pm and 10pm

He says that 8.30  was when the McCanns went to dinner,  and 10pm was when Madeleine was reported as missing

What about Gerry's  9.15pm visit to the apartment then ?  when he says Madeleine was alive and well, tucked up in bed

Surely that would put the crucial time to focus on  as between  9.15pm and 10pm

Certainly between 9-10 anyway. Unless they're discounting Gerry's 9.05 ish sighting.......

Hypothetical question:

If there were no checks at all, and some were invented to mitigate responsibility by the parents, how would people feel then? Especially if it had taken 6 and a half years to come to light?