Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??

[Redblossom]

Oh, I agree with that.
I believe nothing constructive  will come of this, except that SY will look as if they have actually achieved something for all the millions spent.

achieved what? Having an e fit of a possible suspect? or someone who may be a person of interest or entirely innocent?  We have had about 25 to date.......thats alot of millionsof pounds spent for this achievement

As for the hoohah about thousands of peoples mobile phone activity tracked over 31 countries, purleese.....cynical? Yup

[Montclair]

Is this really the best the @BBC could have produced?

A comedy of errors??



The 30-second promo clip shown by the BBC countless times yesterday is not a promising sign.

The child carried the wrong way round according to Jane Tanner's discredited evidence.

Madeleine's bed laying against built-in-cupboards - inaccurate.

A bright shaft of light on Madeleine's bed - inaccurate.

If there are at least three basic errors in a 30-second clip, goodness knows how many there will be in a 30-minute programme.

Also, the bright presence sensitive light on the wall next to the sliding doors shown on the clip and which doesn't exist in PDL.
Someone else pointed out that in the clip the sliding door was in the wrong direction. Not sure on this one.

[jassi]

achieved what? Having an e fit of a possible suspect? or someone who may be a person of interest or entirely innocent? We have had about 25 to date.......thats alot of millionsof pounds spent for this achievement

As for the hoohah about thousands of peoples mobile phone activity tracked over 31 countries, purleese.....cynical? Yup

Exactly. Perhaps this is  vehicle to enhance SY's image as much as anything.

[Angelo222]

Also, the bright presence sensitive light on the wall next to the sliding doors shown on the clip and which doesn't exist in PDL.
Someone else pointed out that in the clip the sliding door was in the wrong direction. Not sure on this one.

See for yourself...

The actual patio door at apt 5a wasn't recessed like the one in the BBC clip but apart from that they both opened from left to right so another myth.

[Mr Gray]

See for yourself...

The actual patio door at apt 5a wasn't recessed like the one in the BBC clip but apart from that they both opened from left to right so another myth.

That's a very big patio door for  a 3 yr old to slide open

[Angelo222]

Because I have contacts and that means I know of a technique that they are using and it is a scientific one, involving technology. It may not be a great secret, but those involved have asked for sensitivity over it. If it is used in the programme I will mention it afterwards, but if not I won't.

Would that be a similar scientific technique to the one the boffins used to try to prove that Barry George had gunshot residue in one of his pockets?

Shame on them!!

[BigFatBlonde]

That's a very big patio door for  a 3 yr old to slide open

Well, that depends on how stiff they are really. My 3 year old can open our patio doors, but then again ours are quite well lubricated.

Mind, if she had opened them herself you would expect lots of handprints on the glass I think.

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[BigFatBlonde]

Would that be a similar scientific technique to the one the boffins used to try to prove that Barry George had gunshot residue in one of his pockets?

Shame on them!!

I've heard of taking a 'scientific approach' but am not really sure on what a 'scientific technique' is, could someone enlighten me please?

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[Mr Gray]

Well, that depends on how stiff they are really. My 3 year old can open our patio doors, but then again ours are quite well lubricated.

Mind, if she had opened them herself you would expect lots of handprints on the glass I think.

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 those ones look about 7 feet tall and 6 feet wide, very chunky .Are yours as big and as heavy. Ive always found these doors quite hard to open

[Angelo222]

Here's another view of it from inside....

I would say it is about 4' wide.  I agree, had Maddie opened it her prints would have been all over it.  Noticeable that her prints weren't found on the front door or the bedroom window either!!

[BigFatBlonde]

 those ones look about 7 feet tall and 6 feet wide, very chunky .Are yours as big and as heavy. Ive always found these doors quite hard to open

Ours are certainly over 6' tall and around 8ft wide. They are made of wood and very heavy - but the mechanism itself is very smooth so she is able to open them. Then again she only needs to get them wide enough to fit out, she doesn't open them the whole way.

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[Angelo222]

Are you sure you don't mean 8' overall with a 4' door?  An 8' patio door would need a 16' gap to open fully.

...and it is my experience that when a child opens a patio door and slips out they don't close it again.

Kate didn't report the patio door as being open did she?

[Mr Gray]

Ours are certainly over 6' tall and around 8ft wide. They are made of wood and very heavy - but the mechanism itself is very smooth so she is able to open them. Then again she only needs to get them wide enough to fit out, she doesn't open them the whole way.

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  sounds as though they are very modern and expensive..not like the one in PDL. I would be surprised if a 3 yr old could open them

[BigFatBlonde]

Actually it isn't. It can still provide useful information. And if if you know about this then you should know why it has potential too.

Hmm, but we don't know about it do we - only you do - so all we can do is speculate about this mysterious 'scientific' thingy that (for some obscure reason) you won't talk about.

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[BigFatBlonde]

Others may know about it too. It is to do with the phones as you know. If you can work it out from there, it would mean it has been made public and I'll confirm it, but as they asked for sensitivity I won't until I know that it is no longer deemed sensitive. I'm sure you can understand that nobody wants to damage the chance of a happy outcome whether that happens or not.

well it's good to know that SY want to show sensitivity and discretion over some aspects of their investigation - because the rest of it has been freely advertised in all the tabloids.

I don't have any insight into what the phone records could reveal to be honest, certainly some intelligence but strong leads? Will just have to wait until the 'big reveal' on Monday.

Let's hope it's not as disappointing as the last episode of 'The Prisoner' or (for our younger viewers) 'Lost'.

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