Author Topic: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??  (Read 34665 times)

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Offline Montclair

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2013, 02:12:59 PM »
Are you sure you don't mean 8' overall with a 4' door?  An 8' patio door would need a 16' gap to open fully.

...and it is my experience that when a child opens a patio door and slips out they don't close it again.

Kate didn't report the patio door as being open did she?

I'm curious as to how Kate and Gerry managed to open the doors each time they went in and out unless they left a tiny gap so that they could get a hand in to push the sliding glass door open. If the doors were closed all the way, the only way to open them, if they were not locked, would be to press your palm on the glass and try to push it to the side.

Offline jassi

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2013, 02:19:39 PM »
I'm curious as to how Kate and Gerry managed to open the doors each time they went in and out unless they left a tiny gap so that they could get a hand in to push the sliding glass door open. If the doors were closed all the way, the only way to open them, if they were not locked, would be to press your palm on the glass and try to push it to the side.

Perhaps they had a handy jemmy
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -

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Redblossom

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Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2013, 02:21:14 PM »
Dont worry dhingra not only will it be on i player and on sky on demand  but it will be uploaded to youtube for posterity.....

Redblossom

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Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2013, 02:23:59 PM »
Actually it isn't. It can still provide useful information. And if if you know about this then you should know why it has potential too.

I cant know anything about anything that I dont know about....I will await the redwood damascus moment on Monday....or big fat flop depending on your viewpoint
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2013, 02:27:59 PM »
I'm curious as to how Kate and Gerry managed to open the doors each time they went in and out unless they left a tiny gap so that they could get a hand in to push the sliding glass door open. If the doors were closed all the way, the only way to open them, if they were not locked, would be to press your palm on the glass and try to push it to the side.

That's a very good point Montclair.  Did anyone else notice that there are no handles on the outside of the patio door?  If you look at the two pictures I posted though you can see that there is a handle on the door but on the other end.  I would hazard a guess that not only was the door unlocked but that it wasn't completely closed either.
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AnneGuedes

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Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2013, 02:44:02 PM »
   

If there are at least three basic errors in a 30-second clip, goodness knows how many there will be in a 30-minute programme.

Nobody will notice, except for a few persons (the Tapas group, JW, the Smith family and posters who read the files). Most watchers will be entertained and SY proved to do many efforts.
All this has been said by others in Reply #30
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Offline jassi

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2013, 02:48:22 PM »
I don't think I could bear to watch at all - the still from the trailer clip that someone posted on here put me right off.

I'll no doubt be able to catch up on the salient points via the internet.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline BigFatBlonde

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2013, 02:58:06 PM »
Oh I'll watch it after all, despite my cynicism, you never know something might come out of it.

Wasn't too impressed with the trailer like where KM says 'we did nothing wrong' - hmmmm  >@@(*&)

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AnneGuedes

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Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2013, 03:03:30 PM »
Are you sure you don't mean 8' overall with a 4' door?  An 8' patio door would need a 16' gap to open fully.

...and it is my experience that when a child opens a patio door and slips out they don't close it again.

Kate didn't report the patio door as being open did she?
Strangely enough they never mentioned the security barrier on top of the stairs, a bit tricky to open in the darkness. Mrs McCann, informed likely by the forums, for the first time says, in "Madeleine", they opened and closed it every time they checked. One more reason to disbelieve the Oldfield's check at 21:30 (those barriers are obviously not easy to open, especially in the dark).
Yes, had Madeleine gone out, she wouldn't have closed the door behind her.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2013, 03:05:03 PM »
Oh I'll watch it after all, despite my cynicism, you never know something might come out of it.

Wasn't too impressed with the trailer like where KM says 'we did nothing wrong' - hmmmm  >@@(*&)

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Seems a strange part of the interview to use in the advertising when they have all but been exonerated of any blame.
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Offline Carana

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2013, 03:10:30 PM »
Is it wrong to advertise this important programme (well - at least from Madeleine's POV it's important) in order that as many people as possible watch it?    That's the whole point isn't  it - to get as big an audience as possible when you are making an appeal to the public.

It doesn't matter a fig if it's not an exact replica of everything if that doesn't affect the information the prog. wishes to convey.     

Are you going to be complaining because the actor who plays Gerry has slightly different coloured hair, or is a fraction of an inch taller or thinner than he is??   What a silly question - of course you are! 

The whole programme will be put under a microscope by some [ censored word] with the express purpose of finding fault with every micro second of it.   And this will keep them happy for months - regurgitating it and embellishing it ad nauseum.   The 'sneer' factor is going to go through the roof.

However, its not those fanatics the programme is aimed at and in the meantime, someone who isn't watching just to gather new material to make a big pile of new sticks to beat the McCanns with - might just phone in with crucial information about Madeleine.  Yes Madeleine -  remember her?

Slowly trying to catch up on this forum's discussions.

I agree with your post, Benice.

Whether every immaterial detail to set the backgound is accurate or not, what will be important is what the police are actually asking the public to be attentive to. And we can't know exactly what that is until the programme is aired.


AnneGuedes

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Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2013, 03:11:40 PM »
See for yourself...

The actual patio door at apt 5a wasn't recessed like the one in the BBC clip but apart from that they both opened from left to right so another myth.


Those sliding door-windows open from both sides.

Offline jassi

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2013, 03:16:48 PM »
Those sliding door-windows open from both sides.


I can only see a handle on the inside of the part open one. Do you mean that the right-hand opens as well ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline BigFatBlonde

Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2013, 03:30:13 PM »
I raised this in an earlier post but this isn't a 'reconstruction' it is a dramatisation. A reconstruction would take into account the times that people claimed to have checked on the children and their location at the time of any alleged activity. that is to say it is a repetition of known (or alleged) events. The are used to construct timelines and check the veracity of witness statements.

That's not to say nothing could come of it, but it isn't a reconstruction.

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AnneGuedes

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Re: Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??
« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2013, 03:31:10 PM »


The whole programme will be put under a microscope by some [ censored word] with the express purpose of finding fault with every micro second of it.   And this will keep them happy for months - regurgitating it and embellishing it ad nauseum.   The 'sneer' factor is going to go through the roof.

However, its not those fanatics the programme is aimed at and in the meantime, someone who isn't watching just to gather new material to make a big pile of new sticks to beat the McCanns with - might just phone in with crucial information about Madeleine.  Yes Madeleine -  remember her?
I find unacceptable your calling "fanatics" people who don't insult you for being unconditional of the McCann doxa.
Why in fact should the actor carry the child as in Ms Tanner's statement ?
Didn't the Emma Loach's actor carry the child contrary to the Smith statement ?
Why do it right when you can do it wrong ?
And why do it right if doing it wrong you get more phone calls ? Thousands of abductors ! A dream..