SY claim the man Tanner saw had collected his child from the night creche ?

[jassi]

Even so jassi,  it is questionable whether  ALL  traces of an intruder would have been lost

But much, much more difficult to detect anything useful, which, of course, might have been the intent in allowing so many people access.

[Sherlock Holmes]

I can't come up with a credible reason why acquaintances would lie to cover a serious crime, but neither can I come up with a credible reason for their being no evidence of an abduction. In fact the only  evidence  seems to point to staging. Misinformation about jemmied shutters and broken doors. Kate's fingerprints on the window, everybodies willingness to point the finger at Murat..

And the door!

That mysteriously moving door!

On a different thread Red came up with a credible reason for Smithman. Someone taking a child to a medical emergency wouldn't stop to chat, would hurry, wouldn't worry about shoes or coats, especially if their child had a temperature.

But even if Smithman is debunked, where does that leave everything else?

..and would probably use a car.

[jassi]

Or a taxi. Someone in a medical emergency might not even know where the nearest emergency facility would be, so a taxi would seem a sensible option. I assume one would be available at 10 pm in PDL.

[Redblossom]

..and would probably use a car.

Depends, if he only lived a few yards away just as quick to walk it than spend time getting babyseat out, strapping child in, etc

[jassi]

Depends, if he only lived a few yards away just as quick to walk it than spend time getting babyseat out, strapping child in, etc

From the direction that Smithman was heading, do you know where the nearest emergency medical facility would be ?
 

[Redblossom]

From the direction that Smithman was heading, do you know where the nearest emergency medical facility would be ?

This map shows with the red circle where the sighting was, corner of Rua 25 Abril  and Rua Escola

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/smith5.jpg

The medical centre is just a way to the left from it on Rua 25 Abril

You can see it here in the google map marked by the code A, click on hybrid for a better look, and play around with enlarging and moving


http://www.luz-info.com/services.htm

Im not arguing this was where Smithman was going, just a possibility, Ok, it wasnt a few yards, but not too long a distance, and maybe the person didnt have a car or couldnt hang around for a cab


EDIT to add, this idea  has now been debunked by Anne on the other Smithman  thread....Apparently there was no night service in 2007.

[AnneGuedes]

According to this clinic, if, after the closing time, your child complains something hurts in a foot, you call the clinic and are redirected to a doctor who, thinking it could be a small surgery, will go to the clinic, open it and meet you there. But if your child is vomiting, the doctor will go to your place.

[Redblossom]

According to this clinic, if, after the closing time, your child complains something hurts in a foot, you call the clinic and are redirected to a doctor who, thinking it could be a small surgery, will go to the clinic, open it and meet you there. But if your child is vomiting, the doctor will go to your place.

Thanks Anne.....

[Apostate]

I would like to know how long this information about bundleman been sat on. It's not recent I would bet - no way would this guy take 6 years to be found or come forward.

[jassi]

Do SY say that he spoke to them ?  If not, it must have been super sleuth Edgar. Unless Mysteryman speaks out, I don't suppose we will get to know.

[AnneGuedes]

Bundleman and Spottyman are still on http://findmadeleine.com/campaigns/unidentified_people.html
Is the fund not paying well the webmaster ?

[Redblossom]

Bundleman and Spottyman are still on http://findmadeleine.com/campaigns/unidentified_people.html
Is the fund not paying well the webmaster ?

mrs Mccann told Sandra Felgueiras she runs the website, and is responsible for everything written on it,very sloppy indeed...mind you with so many efits and suspects on there I dont think it will make much difference, peoples eyes must be rolling..adding another 6 efits....as well now...... I also dont thnk many people visit there much, it is a neglected site, for a good while now,apart from the  donate page being updated with new star spangled options, they now have free facebook ..saves 37000 pounds I guess in website fees, *chortle*

Night Anne....
 

[Haskins]

Can I ask why you feel uncomfortable with that argument ? Perhaps you have found evidence from an independent witness that categorically places Gerry in the tapas bar between those times ?

Hi Faithlillly.      I wouldn't care to advance that argument.  I also wouldn't entirely rule it out. But it seems to me very unlikely. If it were the case that Gerald went missing for such a long period of time then I'm pretty sure one of the witnesses, e.g. one of the tapas 7 or one of the staff, would have reflected on this. But sure it's possible. The Loch Ness Monster theory may well right for all I know. I'm just not happy to advance it (unless I'm playing Devil's Advocate).

Of course on a forum like this we may all speculate to our hearts content and nothing will come of it. The harsh reality the police would have to face though is that it isn't for the McCann's to produce an independent witness that categorically places Gerry in the tapas bar between those times; it's for the authorities to produce a witness that categorically shows he wasn't in the tapas bar. 

[icabodcrane]

Bundleman and Spottyman are still on http://findmadeleine.com/campaigns/unidentified_people.html
Is the fund not paying well the webmaster ?

Perhaps the McCanns are not as  'delighted'  with Scotland Yard's work as they say they are 

...  they certainly don't seem to accept that Andy Redwood and his team have found bundleman 

[AnneGuedes]

If it were the case that Gerald went missing for such a long period of time then I'm pretty sure one of the witnesses, e.g. one of the tapas 7 or one of the staff, would have reflected on this.

Whoever thinks (as I do) the group said untruths in order to protect themselves from neglect suspicions, I don't think they would lie pretending Mr McCann was sitting at the table when the alarm was launched. They wouldn't have mentioned his going to the loo or remembering he left his sunglasses near the pool, but meeting the Smiths etc. would take at least 10 minutes, so I do think he was there.
But what I think too is that the alarm was raised before the Smiths met Smithman..