SY claim the man Tanner saw had collected his child from the night creche ?

[Mr Gray]

does anyone know if those staying in apartments across the road are able to use the facilities of the ocean club. I have seen this arrangements at other resorts.

[Benita]

I have long had a pretty low opinion of Amaral's detecting skills, but now my contempt for him has reached a new height.  When faced with a "who dunnit" crime, basic police procedure is to first eliminate those who couldn't have done it before starting to focus on who may have been involved.

Had he followed this procedure Jane Tanner's bundleman should have been eliminated within the first 24 to 48 hours, but instead it has taken another, proper police force to contact everyone who had children in the crèche that night, and thus able to discount the person Jane saw and whom she, the McCanns and others have thought for six years was the abductor.

This is a glaring, shameful error on the part of Amaral, his team and his superiors.  Little wonder, now, why he wanted the libel trial heard in camera.

I second this 100%

[drummer]

And to think people disbelieved Jane Tanner because Gerry and Jez didn't hear her flip flops?

[Angelo222]

I have long had a pretty low opinion of Amaral's detecting skills, but now my contempt for him has reached a new height.  When faced with a "who dunnit" crime, basic police procedure is to first eliminate those who couldn't have done it before starting to focus on who may have been involved.

Had he followed this procedure Jane Tanner's bundleman should have been eliminated within the first 24 to 48 hours, but instead it has taken another, proper police force to contact everyone who had children in the crèche that night, and thus able to discount the person Jane saw and whom she, the McCanns and others have thought for six years was the abductor.

This is a glaring, shameful error on the part of Amaral, his team and his superiors.  Little wonder, now, why he wanted the libel trial heard in camera.

Do you honestly believe for a minute that every parent who had a child at the crèche that night and the staff weren't questioned about their movements?
 
If you ask me someone was holding back  information on purpose.

[Wonderfulspam]

LMAO at this "bash amarals detective work" thread.
How can we be sure that SY are not telling porkies about debunking Tanners bundle man?

Seems a bit convenient that this man finally comes forward anonymously in what is the most high profile 'alleged child abduction' case.
Do people seriously still think bundle man exists?
Or are SY perhaps playing Tanner at her own game, knowing that her sighting was a deliberate attempt to divert attention from the real sighting which is provided by independent witnesses, and possibly implicates her friend Gerry.

[Victoria]

We don't know what caused the delay, we only know that it has now been resolved, thanks to the Met. It's pretty basic police work:

1. Find out who was known to be in the area and eliminate them.

2. After eliminating them, ask whether they saw any additional people in the area.

3. Track down additional people who were seen and eliminate them.

Like I say, basic stuff. Seems the original investigation got stuck somewhere between step one and two and didn't bother much with step three.

[Victoria]

LMAO at this "bash amarals detective work" thread.
How can we be sure that SY are not telling porkies about debunking Tanners bundle man?

Seems a bit convenient that this man finally comes forward anonymously in what is the most high profile 'alleged child abduction' case.
Do people seriously still think bundle man exists?
Or are SY perhaps playing Tanner at her own game, knowing that her sighting was a deliberate attempt to divert attention from the real sighting which is provided by independent witnesses, and possibly implicates her friend Gerry.

They haven't made the man up. For one thing, if it ever went to trial, they need to show that all lines of enquiry were followed. The defence team would want the name of this man. If the Met couldn't produce the name, the case would collapse. Some people really don't understand police and court procedure. This is real life, not a movie.

[jassi]

Do you think this will ever go to court ?

[Victoria]

Do you think this will ever go to court ?

I believe it will eventually, yes. In fact I would say there will be an arrest within the next twelve months.

[carlymichelle]

im getting so frustrated  SY  have ruled the man with his daughter out




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Madeleine McCann detectives rule out key sighting
Helen McArdle
News Reporter
Monday 14 October 2013

The parents of Madeleine McCann have urged people to "rack their brains" and come forward with information after police released two e-fits of a man who was seen carrying a child near where their daughter went missing.
APPEAL: Metropolitan Police have issued e-fits of a man they want to identify, after talking to witnesses who saw him in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann went missing.
APPEAL: Metropolitan Police have issued e-fits of a man they want to identify, after talking to witnesses who saw him in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann went missing.

It comes as officers from Scotland Yard now say that a man seen carrying a child by the McCanns' friend Jane Tanner was an innocent British holiday maker. They are focusing on another man with dark hair who was also seen with a little girl in his arms around 45 minutes later.

[Victoria]

im getting so frustrated  SY  have ruled the man with his daughter out




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The parents of Madeleine McCann have urged people to "rack their brains" and come forward with information after police released two e-fits of a man who was seen carrying a child near where their daughter went missing.
APPEAL: Metropolitan Police have issued e-fits of a man they want to identify, after talking to witnesses who saw him in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann went missing.
APPEAL: Metropolitan Police have issued e-fits of a man they want to identify, after talking to witnesses who saw him in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann went missing.

It comes as officers from Scotland Yard now say that a man seen carrying a child by the McCanns' friend Jane Tanner was an innocent British holiday maker. They are focusing on another man with dark hair who was also seen with a little girl in his arms around 45 minutes later.

They have ruled one man out, yes. But another man still needs to be eliminated.

[Wonderfulspam]

They haven't made the man up. For one thing, if it ever went to trial, they need to show that all lines of enquiry were followed. The defence team would want the name of this man. If the Met couldn't produce the name, the case would collapse. Some people really don't understand police and court procedure. This is real life, not a movie.

If it ever went to trial & two independent witnesses plus a host of crimewatch viewers identified Gerry McCann as the 'Smiths sighting",
Tanners alleged sighting would be almost totally irrelevant

[Victoria]

If it ever went to trial & two independent witnesses plus a host of crimewatch viewers identified Gerry McCann as the 'Smiths sighting",
Tanners alleged sighting would be almost totally irrelevant

No, it wouldn't, not if you are claiming the Met have fabricated evidence.

[Wonderfulspam]

No, it wouldn't, not if you are claiming the Met have fabricated evidence.

Fabricated evidence, no.
Misled a group of liars via a television programme, possibly.
 

[DCI]

Do you honestly believe for a minute that every parent who had a child at the crèche that night and the staff weren't questioned about their movements?
 
If you ask me someone was holding back  information on purpose.

Yes, I believe it. 

"But Scotland Yard detectives reviewed the evidence and realised that around a dozen holidaymakers had been using a free creche at the Mark Warner resort, and would have collected their sleeping children during the evening".