Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?

[Cariad]

IMO there are at least 2 possible explanations.   Either the abductor was in the apartment, or the bedroom door - (which IIRC is the only interior door facing the patio doors) could have been moved by the change in air pressure every time the patio doors were opened /closed  - as it was breezy that night and so that might have been the reason.

Either Sadie or Anne posted a weather report and it was windier the night before. I think that if the mysteriously moving door had behaved equally mysteriously on other nights, it wouldn't be considered.....mysterious.....

[AnneGuedes]

A third option

The position of the door never changed at  all   ...  and the McCanns lied about it in order to facilitate the  'abduction'  witnessed by Jane Tanner at precisely 9.15pm

That sounds the more simple and likely. Mr McCann, who said he never looked inside, thought he had to invent a pretext to look into the bedroom in order to confirm that Madeleine was sleeping in her bed at 9:10pm. The mysteriously moving door introduced also an element of dramatism in the narrative. Was the intruder in or not ?
Everybody realises by now that Mr Oldfield never went inside of the flat. He possibly listened at the shutters, but couldn't say it because of Tannerman.

[pathfinder73]

The door never changed position - it was the same when Gerry left (half-open or 55 degrees), when MO checked and when Kate arrived. The door didn't move at all. No abductor was hiding in that apartment from 9pm until 9.35pm. I don't believe Madeleine woke up twice - once after Gerry left and moved the door open. Then woke up again after MO check and moved the door fully open before Kate arrived. No No No! The simple and realistic explanation is someone lied about the door position. And if he lied then WHY?

[Wonderfulspam]

The door never changed position - it was the same when Gerry left (half-open or 55 degrees), when MO checked and when Kate arrived. The door didn't move at all. No abductor was hiding in that apartment from 9pm until 9.35pm. I don't believe Madeleine woke up twice - once after Gerry left and moved the door open. Then woke up again after MO check and moved the door fully open before Kate arrived. No No No! The simple and realistic explanation is someone lied about the door position. And if he lied then WHY?

I don't think Madeleine was even in her bed that night,

Gerry McCanns' witness statement 10 May 2007

bed sheets folded towards the foot of the bed

arguido statement 7 September, 2007

lying on top of the covers

'Madeleine Was Here' documentary, broadcast 07 May 2009)

covers were folded down.

And then on Crimewatch she was under the covers.  >@@(*&)

[pathfinder73]

IMO - Madeleine wasn't in the apartment at 8.30pm. This was a simulated abduction from the door and window evidence. And anyone involved would have to have their stories worked out to the tiniest detail and of course they will slip up from time to time. It's best not answering any questions. I'm reading first reports that Kate knew Madeleine had gone because Cuddle Cat was put out of reach by the abductor. Not sure if that's correct because Cuddle Cat was on the pillow.

[Redblossom]

IMO - Madeleine wasn't in the apartment at 8.30pm. This was a simulated abduction from the door and window evidence. And anyone involved would have to have their stories worked out to the tiniest detail and of course they will slip up from time to time. It's best not answering any questions. I'm reading first reports that Kate knew Madeleine had gone because Cuddle Cat was put out of reach by the abductor. Not sure if that's correct because Cuddle Cat was on the pillow.

That was in some tabloid paper article by Lori Campbell in very early days when anythong went....whether it was made up misunderstood or true no one knows, but the reason given for/by  KM knowing she was abducted was because the window and shutters were open/raised...something a three yr old couldnt do

[pathfinder73]

Smithman knows. SY have got to positively identify him to have any chance of closing this case. Smithman would never admit to it ofcourse.

[Angelo222]

IMO - Madeleine wasn't in the apartment at 8.30pm. This was a simulated abduction from the door and window evidence.

That makes no sense.  Had that been the case they were hardly likely to allow Matt or anyone else to do the checks not to mention leave the patio door unlocked for any member of the group to wander in.

Madeleine wandered out into the street and was lifted.  The open window and raised shutter was a poor attempt to deflect blame.

[Angelo222]

I don't think Madeleine was even in her bed that night,

Gerry McCanns' witness statement 10 May 2007

bed sheets folded towards the foot of the bed

arguido statement 7 September, 2007

lying on top of the covers

'Madeleine Was Here' documentary, broadcast 07 May 2009)

covers were folded down.

And then on Crimewatch she was under the covers.  >@@(*&)

These reenactments are very dangerous.  When they made the last Bamber one the so-called 'expert' Mark Williams-Thomas claimed Sheila was shot with a shotgun.  wtf!!

Total bollox as she was shot with a .22 rifle.

[AnneGuedes]

I'm reading first reports that Kate knew Madeleine had gone because Cuddle Cat was put out of reach by the abductor. Not sure if that's correct because Cuddle Cat was on the pillow.

This is a myth.

[AnneGuedes]

The open window and raised shutter was a poor attempt to deflect blame.

But that ploy functioned remarkably well !

[pathfinder73]

That makes no sense.  Had that been the case they were hardly likely to allow Matt or anyone else to do the checks not to mention leave the patio door unlocked for any member of the group to wander in.

Madeleine wandered out into the street and was lifted.  The open window and raised shutter was a poor attempt to deflect blame.

Actually that would have worked better if MO found her missing. It can't be the parents they were at the tapas bar. And the abductor had to come in the unlocked patio door to enter. Gerry left the door just open and MO came in and found the door open and Madeleine missing. That would have been far better. No apparent discrepancies on the door or window. But MO didn't enter the room so didn't know if Madeleine was there or not. Smithman must have really hoped and wished that MO had found her missing.

[Madeleine wandered out into the street and was lifted.  The open window and raised shutter was a poor attempt to deflect blame.]

Madeleine wouldn't have made it down those steps.

[VIXTE]

Madeleine could not wander out, she would not open the curtains, open the patio,  close the curtains, close the patio, open the gate and close the gate.. to much for a little child.. she would have left it all open.. if she was able to open it herself.

Another thing, it was dark. Dark inside, dark outside.

A child would rather cry in a dark room then go out in a dark, my opinion.

Point three.. the Portuguese search dogs showed her track out of the apartment through the main, around the building and to a car park.

[AnneGuedes]

(Dianne Webster) clarifies that the practice was for each couple to check their own children, it not being usual for anyone to check the children of other couples.
- The question asked, she thinks that up to the date of the disappearance it had never happened that anyone had entered the apartment of another couple in order to check their offspring.

[AnneGuedes]

Madeleine wouldn't have made it down those steps.

I agree, but she could easily open the door (this is why the O'Briens locked it) and the corridor had some permanent light.