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Silkywhiskers

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #375 on: June 02, 2014, 08:42:10 PM »
Yeah I love how the "checking" system is the biggest FAILURE in this case.

Closer examination reveals the "checks" were not at all thorough, indeed Gerry thinks that the Abductor was hiding behind the door while he relieved himself!!!!

Checking FAIL.

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #376 on: June 03, 2014, 04:33:45 PM »
If Cato Fong had been hiding in there from Clouseau I think he might have been a bit more inventive than behind the bedroom door. IMO there was never any abductor in there but just as a hypothetical exercise it is easy to make a complete list of all the interior physical spaces in which an imaginary hiding abductor could physically fit.
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Silkywhiskers

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #377 on: June 03, 2014, 08:26:40 PM »
If Cato Fong had been hiding in there from Clouseau I think he might have been a bit more inventive than behind the bedroom door. IMO there was never any abductor in there but just as a hypothetical exercise it is easy to make a complete list of all the interior physical spaces in which an imaginary hiding abductor could physically fit.

There was never any room for an abductor, period.

I'm using irony and sarcasm in my other post.


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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #378 on: June 03, 2014, 09:28:09 PM »
IMO there was no abductor hiding anywhere but if there was there are plenty of physical spaces and for example he could have hid in a top cupboard, even Clouseau would not expect that.
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Silkywhiskers

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #379 on: June 03, 2014, 09:35:06 PM »
If you are "checking" your children, you are on alert.

How on earth could ANYONE hide in that tiny apartment, when a prowling father was about?

We all KNOW when a house is empty and when it's not.  Instinct left over from caveman days.

Gerry entered a tiny apartment complete with intruder, and had NO IDEA said intruder was there?

Intruder did not breathe, or sweat, or reveal himself in any normal human way?

Please........how ridiculous.

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #380 on: June 03, 2014, 09:57:01 PM »
If you are "checking" your children, you are on alert.

How on earth could ANYONE hide in that tiny apartment, when a prowling father was about?

We all KNOW when a house is empty and when it's not.  Instinct left over from caveman days.

Gerry entered a tiny apartment complete with intruder, and had NO IDEA said intruder was there?

Intruder did not breathe, or sweat, or reveal himself in any normal human way?

Please........how ridiculous.
Pathfinder came up with a witty hiding place suggestion. However IMO the child was alive and asleep in bed during the check of about 21:05 (and that BTW is how Mr Amaral re-enacts it in his film).
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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #381 on: June 03, 2014, 10:13:57 PM »
So yet again you are totally discounting Eddie's alerts? ...
IMO you can't possibly have read that in my posts.
IMO child alive sleeping in bed during the 21:05 check, and Eddie is correct always.
I see no contradiction at all, do you?
« Last Edit: June 03, 2014, 10:16:05 PM by pegasus »

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #382 on: June 04, 2014, 01:46:34 AM »
To apply good maths to real life requires getting the assumptions right first JIMO.

 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(

Best post of the night.  Polite but to the point

Well done Pegasus!

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #383 on: June 04, 2014, 01:47:54 AM »
And the REASON we are still in denial is.....????

Just keep digging your roses, we'll dig for Madeleine.


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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #384 on: June 04, 2014, 02:10:25 AM »
8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(

Best post of the night.  Polite but to the point

Well done Pegasus!
I do not have the same theory as you.
However to some extent we possibly may agree on certain points at least in outline form.
Such as: that the cat never signalled.
It is relevant to this door thread, because as soon as one assumes the observed signal was to the cat, instantly and inevitably that leads to the conclusion that the child bedroom scene was staged, which is incorrect. All JIMO.

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #385 on: June 04, 2014, 02:15:21 AM »
I do not have the same theory as you.
However to some extent we possibly may agree on certain points at least in outline form.
Such as: that the cat never signalled.
It is relevant to this door thread, because as soon as one assumes the observed signal was to the cat, instantly and inevitably that leads to the conclusion that the child bedroom scene was staged, which is incorrect. All JIMO.
I am fully aware that you do not have the same theory as me, but you research and have a logical mind, which I appreciate ... and the comment I commended was classy

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #386 on: June 04, 2014, 02:33:29 AM »
...classy
Thankyou, but back to the door, all I did was looked at a door which was reported to have become wider open, and said, oh, maybe someone opened it to walk through, let's see there were only three people there, can't be the two in cots, so that solves who opened the door. Never anticipated that a person opening a door to go through it would be so opposed, and from all sides

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #387 on: June 04, 2014, 02:50:55 AM »
Thankyou, but back to the door, all I did was looked at a door which was reported to have become wider open, and said, oh, maybe someone opened it to walk through, let's see there were only three people there, can't be the two in cots, so that solves who opened the door. Never anticipated that a person opening a door to go through it would be so opposed, and from all sides
Have you ever wondered about the door moving as the patio door was slid open / and / or closed?  Or about there possibly being a window left open causing a draft (after the kiddies bedroom window was opened?)

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #388 on: June 04, 2014, 02:56:26 AM »
Was there a monty python sketch called "How to open a door before walking through it"?
Or am I imagining it?

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #389 on: June 04, 2014, 03:04:02 AM »
Have you ever wondered about the door moving as the patio door was slid open / and / or closed?  Or about there possibly being a window left open causing a draft (after the kiddies bedroom window was opened?)

No draft moved the door. That door was a load of BS!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.