Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?

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Mr McCann left it almost shut, so Mr Oldfield can't have seen it too much open, now that Tannerman is Innocentman.
If Mr Oldfield saw it too much open, the only explanation is the door moved by itself.

Matt also saw lots of natural light, and Gerry left it all dark.

[pathfinder73]

An abductor hiding in an apartment for 30 minutes before he left with Madeleine and no evidence of going through a window. I don't think so. Maybe a pig flew out of the window.

[AnneGuedes]

Matt also saw lots of natural light, and Gerry left it all dark.

No. Mr Oldfield saw the moon coming from the door-window...
In fact he never was in this flat.

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No. Mr Oldfield saw the moon coming from the door-window...
In fact he never was in this flat.

At around 9.25pm, the interviewee went into his apartment and Madeleine's apartment to check on the children. He states that the door of the bedroom that was occupied by Madeleine and the twins, was open and that there was enough light in the bedroom for him to see the twins in their cots. That he couldn't see the bed occupied by Madeleine, but as it was all quiet, he deduced that she was sleeping. That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open.

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An abductor hiding in an apartment for 30 minutes before he left with Madeleine and no evidence of going through a window. I don't think so. Maybe a pig flew out of the window.

he went out through the front doors

[pegasus]

It took me less than 3 minutes, but I was only carrying my bag. Smithman, more muscles than me, was carrying sliding 15 kg. So let's give him 4 minutes ! ;)

Big thanks.
So if Smithman was seen at the south end of Rua Escola at 22:00, and if he came from the apartment, then he left the apartment at about 21:56.
I wonder if SY have bothered to time this walk?

[pathfinder73]

he went out through the front doors

Why would he open the window and shutters?

I think MO was confused with the light shining into the bedroom from the living room.

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Why would he open the window and shutters?

Nobody knows why. I don't want to speculate and we all can speculate.

I think MO was confused with the light shining into the bedroom from the living room.

Maybe. Maybe not.

[pathfinder73]

Fair enough but to find answers we've got to ask the right questions. Why would an abductor take the risk in opening a window and shutters? It doesn't make sense. The only possible reason I can think of would be that he was passing Madeleine through the window to someone else but it was quicker to go in and out through the door. He had to squeeze past 2 cots then bed and chair in corner and left no window evidence.

[AnneGuedes]

Big thanks.
So if Smithman was seen at the south end of Rua Escola at 22:00, and if he came from the apartment, then he left the apartment at about 21:56.
I wonder if SY have bothered to time this walk?

Actually the appearance of SY, its old e-fits sold as breaking news, its rotten orange pyjama hammered as identical to fresh white Tannerpyjama, its 36 police officers full time on the case since May 2011, its 41 persons of interest in quite a few countries, its endless rogatory letter requiring 6 police officers in Faro, apart from the 5 in Porto, its HOLMES etc., is imo a much deeper mystery than the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[pathfinder73]

Correct there's a lot. I read that top SY detectives are working on this case so they must be wanting to find Madeleine dead or alive before they can wrap up this case. I think the top dogs will be working hard on the theory they think is the correct one i.e. Smithman.

[sadie]

Why would he open the window and shutters?

I think MO was confused with the light shining into the bedroom from the living room.

Jeez Pathfinder

This has been gone over and over and over.  Could you read back a bit pls

Probably the main three reasons out of about 7 are that

1)  he was preparing an escape route if needed in emergency
2)  To pass things and give encouragement and instructions to the lifter (assuming two peeps)
3)  To try and take the attention off the front door as means of coming in and out.  Cos a key would have been needed and that implicated a member of staff at OC

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Fair enough but to find answers we've got to ask the right questions. Why would an abductor take the risk in opening a window and shutters? It doesn't make sense. The only possible reason I can think of would be that he was passing Madeleine through the window to someone else but it was quicker to go in and out through the door. He had to squeeze past 2 cots then bed and chair in corner and left no window evidence.

Can we really predict why people do things?
Maybe he felt threatened by the patio door visitors while being in the room.
Maybe waiting for accomplice?
Maybe this person who was in was not the person who actually took Madeleine away?

If I want to be really nasty I can even say that it could have been Matt Oldfield who opened that window and who passed Madeleine through it to someone as he had the most of the opportunity.
I think the PJ thought that on the beginning. It was written somewhere, I think the Guardian that he was given the hard time due to being last before Kate found Madeleine missing and obviously being the one who offered to check.
This is just an example.
It can also be a member of personnel of OC club who 'agreed' to enter the apartment and take the girl out.
It could have been a local petty thief who woke up Madeleine and accidental killed her by making her quiet so she would not scream.
Opportunity, organised it can also be an accidental situation. We don't know, but we can at least hope the police is on their track.

[pathfinder73]

I believe MO. He looked devastated in the reconstruction going back in to the apartment and explaining what happened. I can't believe an abductor was hiding in that apartment for that long so I don't believe these unlikely door/window theories. That's my own opinion and I will continue to use the simple and most realistic explanation to these discrepancies. One loser once said, The Bigger the Lie, the more it will be Believed. In this case SY have used The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann and not the other word for a very good reason!

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Lets hope the police will bring this case to the end, to the place where it should have been long ago.