Portugal and paedophiles

[Mr Gray]

Yeah, some more baseless Portugal bashing.

 Are you accusing the Guardian of xenophobia

[patb]

another country could easily take all of the recent evidence concerning child abuse in the UK and put together a story concluding the the UK is a haven for child abusers and, on that basis, make it more likely that children who dissappear within this country are statistically more likley to have been abducted by child adusers. Its pretty weak stuff and is small potatoes compared to the well established trend of kids being abused by those that they trust. The fact that the article mentions an orphanage is confirmation that this trend is beyond international boundaries. To have any reference to this case, you would have to have evidence that Portugal was a specific haven for child abusers who prefer to abduct kids rather than exploint positions and trust and groom them. No evidence for this at all is there?

[BigFatBlonde]

I think its worth emphasising point that although crimes against children exist everywhere I have never seen the UK described as thus..

Portugal has increasingly been under the scrutiny of anti-paedophile groups who have denounced its lax laws and uninterested courts for creating a paedophiles’ paradise in Europe.

I quite like the Guardian, but I do take quotes like these with a pinch of salt. Who are these 'anti paedophile' groups? Why don't we have a traceable quote from one of them?

The former Eastern Bloc and Vietnam are much, much more of a 'paedophiles paradise' than anywhere in Europe.

It does come across as a bit of Porto bashing to me like - but hey at least while they are doing that they are laying off someone else I suppose.

N

[Mr Gray]

I quite like the Guardian, but I do take quotes like these with a pinch of salt. Who are these 'anti paedophile' groups? Why don't we have a traceable quote from one of them?

The former Eastern Bloc and Vietnam are much, much more of a 'paedophiles paradise' than anywhere in Europe.

It does come across as a bit of Porto bashing to me like - but hey at least while they are doing that they are laying off someone else I suppose.

N

 You asked who are these groups and a traceable quote..




Updated: 08-May-2007

As the world waited for a press conference to be given by the police authorities in Portugal on Monday evening, BBC News 24 in the UK held an interview with the president of Innocence in Danger.

Homayra Sellier spoke of her concern that the Portuguese authorities were not positioned correctly to investigate cases of missing children.  Following a visit to Portugal in 2003,Innocence in Danger, a Swiss-based association with branches throughout the world, took a decision not to establish a branch in Portugal.

Homayra said that during her visit she was unimpressed with the resources and lack of will to learn displayed by the Portuguese authorities she met.

During the visit of representatives from Innocence in Danger, the Casa Pia (paedophilia) scandal broke and the way in which this was handled added weight to the association’s concerns and subsequent decision not to try to work further in Portugal.

When Homyra spoke to The Resident today (Tuesday) she said that she did not want to cause problems, but was desperate that things should change and change now to ensure that issues relating to crimes against children were dealt with in an acceptable way.

Readers wishing to learn more about the work of Innocents in Danger should visit their website www.innocenceendanger.org


 perhaps Portugal does have a particular problem with paedophiles

[BigFatBlonde]

You asked who are these groups and a traceable quote..




Updated: 08-May-2007

As the world waited for a press conference to be given by the police authorities in Portugal on Monday evening, BBC News 24 in the UK held an interview with the president of Innocence in Danger.

Homayra Sellier spoke of her concern that the Portuguese authorities were not positioned correctly to investigate cases of missing children.  Following a visit to Portugal in 2003,Innocence in Danger, a Swiss-based association with branches throughout the world, took a decision not to establish a branch in Portugal.

Homayra said that during her visit she was unimpressed with the resources and lack of will to learn displayed by the Portuguese authorities she met.

During the visit of representatives from Innocence in Danger, the Casa Pia (paedophilia) scandal broke and the way in which this was handled added weight to the association’s concerns and subsequent decision not to try to work further in Portugal.

When Homyra spoke to The Resident today (Tuesday) she said that she did not want to cause problems, but was desperate that things should change and change now to ensure that issues relating to crimes against children were dealt with in an acceptable way.

Readers wishing to learn more about the work of Innocents in Danger should visit their website www.innocenceendanger.org


 perhaps Portugal does have a particular problem with paedophiles

Thanks davel. You would have thought that it would be just the place they would want to work though surely? Or do they just hang around in countries that do a good job reading crimes against children. Seems a bit odd.

Looking at their site they appear to be a bit of a lobbying group really - and their '10 commandments' don't mention law enforcement procedure at all. Lots of other good stuff though and I would wish them well in their endeavours.

N

[Mr Gray]

Thanks davel. You would have thought that it would be just the place they would want to work though surely? Or do they just hang around in countries that do a good job reading crimes against children. Seems a bit odd.

Looking at their site they appear to be a bit of a lobbying group really - and their '10 commandments' don't mention law enforcement procedure at all. Lots of other good stuff though and I would wish them well in their endeavours.

N

my interpretation of the post is that they were not getting the cooperation of the Portuguese to tackle the problem

[Redblossom]

What is the point of this thread?
Do you think Madeleine was taken by a paedophile Davel? Im not going to second guess you any further, you need to elaborate yourself.

[Redblossom]

Next ? What about those deplorable e-fits without neck nor body ?

two efits which are supposed to be of the same man but are like chalk and cheese...and yea, if the smiths helped create them, where are the bodies......with clothes described, height, weight etc