Leicestershire Police & The Met.

[Wonderfulspam]

Leicestershire police & The Met appear to have different hymn books.

Leicestershire Police

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".


Whereas the Met apparently disagree

"The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects"


As clear as mud then, 

On the assumption that the Met must have infact uncovered 'Clear Evidence which eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance', why has this evidence not been enough to reopen the Portuguese investigation?

[jassi]

Leicestershire police & The Met appear to have different hymn books.

Leicestershire Police

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".


Whereas the Met apparently disagree

"The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects"


As clear as mud then, 

On the assumption that the Met must have infact uncovered 'Clear Evidence which eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance', why has this evidence not been enough to reopen the Portuguese investigation?

Maybe they haven't got round to telling the Portuguese yet, or maybe there isn't  strong enough evidence to convince them.

[Apostate]

Both of these could be true

[Benice]

Leicestershire police & The Met appear to have different hymn books.

Leicestershire Police

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".


Whereas the Met apparently disagree

"The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects"


As clear as mud then, 

On the assumption that the Met must have infact uncovered 'Clear Evidence which eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance', why has this evidence not been enough to reopen the Portuguese investigation?

The first statement was made while the McCanns were still Arguidos.  No way would a UK police force say anything in public that would even hint that the PJ had got it wrong.   It would have caused a diplomatic incident and seriously damaged relations between both police forces.

I think you will find that Leicester police are not stuck in the past as many sceptics appear to be - and so would not be making a similar statement nowadays.  Their 'diplomatic' position is completely different now to back then.

IMO.

[jassi]

As they are not the investigating force, one wouldn't really expect them to say anything.

[Lyall]

The first statement was made while the McCanns were still Arguidos.  No way would a UK police force say anything in public that would even hint that the PJ had got it wrong.   It would have caused a diplomatic incident and seriously damaged relations between both police forces.

I think you will find that Leicester police are not stuck in the past as many sceptics appear to be - and so would not be making a similar statement nowadays.  Their 'diplomatic' position is completely different now to back then.

IMO.

You might be right, but the exact same logic applies to what Redwood says to the media now - it's diplomacy.

[Wonderfulspam]

The first statement was made while the McCanns were still Arguidos.  No way would a UK police force say anything in public that would even hint that the PJ had got it wrong.   It would have caused a diplomatic incident and seriously damaged relations between both police forces.

I think you will find that Leicester police are not stuck in the past as many sceptics appear to be - and so would not be making a similar statement nowadays.  Their 'diplomatic' position is completely different now to back then.

IMO.

"The first statement was made while the McCanns were still Arguidos."
Proof of this please?
I seem to remember the Leicestershire Police statement was made after the McCanns requested to see the case file, prior to the release of Kates book & a long time after the arguido status was lifted? Maybe I'm entirely wrong, but I'm having trouble finding the exact date of the statement.
 

[Luz]

It's very unfortunate that Leicetershire Police decided to abandon the search for Madeleine as soon as her parents were made arguido and escaped to Britain.

That shows clearly that Leicestershire Constabulary was never in Portugal to help with the searches for the child but merely to protect or mediate the relation between the portuguese police and the McCann. In fact, it was not by chance that Gonçalo Amaral was caught in an "off the record" talk with his journalist friend. He knew the British police from Leicestershire were there not to assist the searches but to protect the parents.

[Jazzy]

Leicestershire police & The Met appear to have different hymn books.

Leicestershire Police

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".


Whereas the Met apparently disagree

"The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects"


As clear as mud then, 

On the assumption that the Met must have infact uncovered 'Clear Evidence which eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance', why has this evidence not been enough to reopen the Portuguese investigation?

I'd be inclined to be swayed by the current force actually investigating the case rather than an archived quote from one who never did.

[Luz]

Nowhere in the world when a young child disappears from her home (in this case a rented flat) are the close family immediately discarded without a very thorough check.

The McCann avoided being checked from day one. Mrs McCann, according to the newspapers, even stated that she was ready to take a polygraph test, which was made available to her at no cost by an expert, and when such offered was made she discarded it.

They avoided any situation that could clarify their position as potential suspects, namelly by escaping to Spain in the day the police had warned them they would be going to the Villa to take the clothes and car for the EVDR dogs to search.

They flew off Portugal as soon as they were nominated arguidos, instead of taking advantage of that situation to require further investigations.

They still argue they have been cleared by the Portuguese Attorney General, when they know that it isn't true.

They attempted to get files from the Leicestershire police, using the special status they put their missing daughter into - renouncing their parental rights to a Court of Law - without success.

The Leicestershire Police should be called to explain why they didn't find it important to keep the search for Madeleine, in Portugal after September 10th, 2007.

[Jazzy]

Nice bit of twist there, Luz.

[Luz]

Nice bit of twist there, Luz.

PROVE IT.

I can present documents to every line I wrote.

[Mr Gray]

PROVE IT.

I can present documents to every line I wrote.

Please present them then

[John]

Leicestershire police & The Met appear to have different hymn books.

Leicestershire Police

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".


Whereas the Met apparently disagree

"The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects"


As clear as mud then, 

On the assumption that the Met must have infact uncovered 'Clear Evidence which eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance', why has this evidence not been enough to reopen the Portuguese investigation?

Good point, but have the Met actually declared them to be innocent of any criminal act?   Alternatively, they could be playing the long game.  They might not be suspects at this moment in time but this can change and do so very quickly.

As for Kirsty Young saying on national TV that they have been officially cleared, she or whoever writes this garbage really needs to get their facts straight!

[Wonderfulspam]

Good point, but have the Met actually declared them to be innocent of any criminal act?   Alternatively, they could be playing the long game.  They might not be suspects at this moment in time but this can change and do so very quickly.

As for Kirsty Young saying on national TV that they have been officially cleared, she or whoever writes this garbage really needs to get their facts straight!

And so the way I see it John is this,

"The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects"

however

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance".

If the MET had clear evidence of their complete & undoubted innocence then this information would be shared & the McCanns would no doubt want this publicised as it would clear them in both Portugal & the court of public opinion, the alleged hate campaign would cease & we could forget the whole nasty saga ever happened.