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Offline Montclair

Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #150 on: October 23, 2013, 06:10:22 PM »
I don't think they are as there is no trace of the shutters

You don't see the shutters in this photo because they have been pulled all the way up into the box at the top of the window.

Offline Apostate

Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #151 on: October 23, 2013, 06:21:43 PM »
the shutters are a red-herring - the McCanns opened them to provide an explanation for the abductor getting in but ultimately they had to admit they'd left all the doors unlocked - they got themselves in an awful pickle with these little fibs

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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #152 on: October 23, 2013, 06:39:33 PM »
I don't think they are as there is no trace of the shutters

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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #153 on: October 23, 2013, 09:40:23 PM »
Mike Teskowski?? The murderer ??

Just seen this..could you reign your mouth in at times before spouting? Who do you think he has murdered? And where do you think/imagine you read any such thing?

I read somewhere you murdered someone, did you?!
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« Reply #154 on: October 23, 2013, 09:41:05 PM »
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Didnt understand that smokey smiley reaponse DCI, care to share your thoughts?



Offline pathfinder73

Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #155 on: October 23, 2013, 09:58:28 PM »
It doesn't make any sense to use the windows if it was a pre-planned operation with spotters. They could easily gain access through the unlocked patio door and it would be easier to exit through the front door where it's more hidden rather than opening windows and raising shutters which make noise. Not to mention squeezing past 2 cots, bed, chair to get to the window and then leave no trace of forensic evidence. No I don't think so.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #156 on: October 23, 2013, 10:02:16 PM »
mitchell:



However, in the early part of the hunt, friends and family members told journalists that the shutter on the apartment where the McCanns were staying had been broken.

Mr Mitchell made his comments when questioned by a 'Prime Time' team in a report on the disappearance to be screened tomorrow. "There was no evidence of a break-in," said Mr Mitchell.

"I'm not going into the detail, but I can say that Kate and Gerry are firmly of the view that somebody got into the apartment and took Madeleine out the window as their means of escape, and to do that they did not necessarily have to tamper with anything. They got out of the window fairly easily."


Well it must have been the flying scotsman ninja batman  through the window without touching any part of it  clambering out with a four yr old, of course........and onto a metre drop onto the ground
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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #157 on: October 23, 2013, 10:20:04 PM »
Didnt understand that smokey smiley reaponse DCI, care to share your thoughts?

Go stalk someone else Red. Seems you take us in turns. Whats a reaponse?
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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #158 on: October 23, 2013, 10:34:52 PM »
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whats a smoking smiley got to do with a comment about shutters, and the photo NOT being of the kids bedroomwhen it actually IS, words would be more helpful to other posters..... Than cryptic nonsense

Offline Benice

Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #159 on: October 23, 2013, 10:52:54 PM »
the shutters are a red-herring - the McCanns opened them to provide an explanation for the abductor getting in but ultimately they had to admit they'd left all the doors unlocked - they got themselves in an awful pickle with these little fibs

What lies?  They said straightaway that Matt had entered via the unlocked Patio windows.  Does anyone really think that two intelligent people would open the shutters themselves, and then claim they had been forced open without doing some damage to them first to prove they had been forced?   

Does anyone really believe that they thought the PJ would just take their word for it and not check for evidence of a forced entry?     They were not simpletons, but they would certainly  have to be - to not take into account that hugely obvious check for evidence that the police were bound to carry out.

Kate came into the bedroom.   The shutters and window which were closed when they went out were now open and her daughter was gone.  And like any other normal person her immediate thought was that someone had broken into the bedroom via that window and taken Madeleine.    She would have been abnormal NOT to think that.


   





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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #160 on: October 23, 2013, 11:10:08 PM »
whats a smoking smiley got to do with a comment about shutters, and the photo NOT being of the kids bedroomwhen it actually IS, words would be more helpful to other posters..... Than cryptic nonsense

and the photo NOT being of the kids bedroomwhen it actually IS. You should read the posts right. It was Jassi, said it wasn't the kids bedroom.

Looks like you are seeing things again Red.  Mine 8(>((

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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #161 on: October 23, 2013, 11:14:26 PM »
Kate came into the bedroom.   The shutters and window which were closed when they went out were now open and her daughter was gone.  And like any other normal person her immediate thought was that someone had broken into the bedroom via that window and taken Madeleine.    She would have been abnormal NOT to think that.


 

Just her word and nothing else, if you want to believe that 100% your prerogative...and u can hope and light candles forever more....doesnt make it true though in any way shape or form otherwise does it? Nite nite again

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Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #162 on: October 23, 2013, 11:15:41 PM »
What lies?  They said straightaway that Matt had entered via the unlocked Patio windows.  Does anyone really think that two intelligent people would open the shutters themselves, and then claim they had been forced open without doing some damage to them first to prove they had been forced?   

No, that's what stupid people do 8)-)))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #163 on: October 23, 2013, 11:16:33 PM »
I opened this thread so all the posters who have accused the McCann of lying re the jemmied shutters could supply proof to back up their accusations...they have failed miserably

Offline Benice

Re: Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.
« Reply #164 on: October 23, 2013, 11:19:48 PM »
Just her word and nothing else, if you want to believe that 100% your prerogative...and u can hope and light candles forever more....doesnt make it true though in any way shape or form otherwise does it? Nite nite again

Tell me Red, do you really think that it never entered either of the McCanns heads that the police wouldn't think it was a just a wee bit suspicious if the shutters showed no evidence whatsoever of being forced?   Were they really that thick?    I don't think so.

Nigh night.





The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal