Author Topic: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.  (Read 68771 times)

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Offline Angelo222

So what happened to Mary Smiths first statement?  We know according to Martin that she didn't want to make another one.
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Offline Albertini

My mistake sorry.  She in fact said she was 60% certain it was Madeleine McCann she saw.  So if the father is 60%-80% certain it was Gerry McCann what are we supposed to believe?  Coincidence??

She did describe the abductor wearing beige trousers possibly with buttons and we have a picture of Gerry in June/July in Portugal wearing trousers that match that description....

So we have Mr Smith saying he was 60-80% certain it was Gerry and Mrs Smith describing trousers we have photographic evidence of Gerry having in Portugal....

ETA... Sorry i believe it was his daughter who described the trousers not Mr Smith's wife.

The point stands about the corroboration though.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 11:49:51 AM by Albertini »

Offline gilet

Paulo Rebelo reviewed thoroughly the Amaral investigation, he's now deputy national director of the PJ.

Yes and we were told just how appalled he was at the way the case had been handled by Amaral.

It is a great shame that he was not co-ordinator from the beginning.

Did you know it was not till the 10th of October for example (just after he was installed) that the PJ even got around to attempting to confirm the timing of the Smith sighting reported to them 5 months earlier by doing the basic police work of interviewing the Kelly's Bar staff and asking for the till receipts.


Offline gilet

So what happened to Mary Smiths first statement?  We know according to Martin that she didn't want to make another one.

We don't know for certain anything about Mary Smith having made any statement. Did she return to Portugal in May 2007? We only have hearsay from Martin about her comments. That is not evidence at all.

Offline Angelo222

Again, anyone know why Mrs Smiths statement is missing from the files??  It was the Garda officer Sergeant Liam Hogan who stated she didn't want to make another thus :

Detective Branch
 Drogheda
 County Lough

 Re – Investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

 I took an additional statement from Mr Smith as requested. His wife does not want to make another statement. I showed him the video clip and he stated that it was not the clip that alerted him but the BBC news at 10 PM on 9th September 2007.




www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 11:59:06 AM by Angelo222 »
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Offline gilet

She did describe the abductor wearing beige trousers possibly with buttons and we have a picture of Gerry in June/July in Portugal wearing trousers that match that description....

So we have Mr Smith saying he was 60-80% certain it was Gerry and Mrs Smith describing trousers we have photographic evidence of Gerry having in Portugal....

ETA... Sorry i believe it was his daughter who described the trousers not Mr Smith's wife.

The point stands about the corroboration though.

So two possibilities, one that the man carried the child in the same way as Gerry (most people do by the way) and that was the only point of similarity mentioned by Martin. And one similarity between trousers (a kind that was popular that year). But nothing at all from the other Smith witnesses and at least five (including one independent one) positively confirming without any doubt that Gerry was elsewhere at the time.

No matter how many times you look at it there is no way people can't understand why SY on balance are coming down on the side that it was not in fact Gerry.

Offline gilet

Again, anyone know why Mrs Smiths statement is missing from the files??

When you offer some actual evidence that she returned to Portugal with the others and made a statement instead of just presuming that as a fact we might take your question seriously.

Isn't it perfectly possible that she may have remained in Ireland to look after the younger children?

Redblossom

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Again, anyone know why Mrs Smiths statement is missing from the files??  It was the Garda  officer who stated she didn't want to make another thus :

Detective Branch
 Drogheda
 County Lough

 Re – Investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

 I took an additional statement from Mr Smith as requested. His wife does not want to make another statement. I showed him the video clip and he stated that it was not the clip that alerted him but the BBC news at 10 PM on 9th September 2007.


www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

The obvious assumption to make is that she stayed in Ireland and gave her statement to the Gardia......something which like many other statements given in the UK are not contained in the files.....she did give a statement ...that much we know.....anyone desperately for some reason insinuatng otherwise is calling mr smith/gardia liars
« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 12:04:00 PM by Redblossom »

Offline Angelo222

The obvious assumption to make is that she stayed in Ireland and gave her statement to the Gardia......something which like many other statements given in the UK are not contained in the files.....

I agree, wouldn't that be an interesting piece of paper to see??
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Offline Angelo222

So two possibilities, one that the man carried the child in the same way as Gerry (most people do by the way) and that was the only point of similarity mentioned by Martin. And one similarity between trousers (a kind that was popular that year). But nothing at all from the other Smith witnesses and at least five (including one independent one) positively confirming without any doubt that Gerry was elsewhere at the time.

No matter how many times you look at it there is no way people can't understand why SY on balance are coming down on the side that it was not in fact Gerry.

It's called evidence Gilet!!  Looks like some Irish folks are going to be busy with interviews again and we all know where that leads!!   @)(++(*
« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 12:06:25 PM by Angelo222 »
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Redblossom

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2013, 12:05:12 PM »
I agree, wouldn't that be an interesting piece of paper to see??

ive no doubt whatsoever it will all come out in the big wash....
 8((()*/

Offline Angelo222

Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2013, 12:08:04 PM »
ive no doubt whatsoever it will all come out in the big wash....
 8((()*/

Whitewash??   >@@(*&)
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #102 on: October 24, 2013, 12:11:54 PM »
When you offer some actual evidence that she returned to Portugal with the others and made a statement instead of just presuming that as a fact we might take your question seriously.

Isn't it perfectly possible that she may have remained in Ireland to look after the younger children?

I never said she returned to Portugal with the others to give a statement so she must have given one to the Garda in Ireland.

Why it was never sent to Portugal is another mystery??
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Redblossom

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #103 on: October 24, 2013, 12:19:59 PM »
Whitewash??   >@@(*&)

No I think all the smalls will be out on the washing line for all to see....

AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #104 on: October 24, 2013, 01:40:06 PM »
So two possibilities, one that the man carried the child in the same way as Gerry (most people do by the way) and that was the only point of similarity mentioned by Martin. And one similarity between trousers (a kind that was popular that year). But nothing at all from the other Smith witnesses and at least five (including one independent one) positively confirming without any doubt that Gerry was elsewhere at the time.
Disinformations : No, No, "the" determines which time ?