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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #105 on: October 24, 2013, 02:10:08 PM »
So what happened to Mary Smiths first statement?  We know according to Martin that she didn't want to make another one.

You will find Mary didn't want to make another statement, according to Sergeant Liam Hogan of Detective Branch Drogheda County Lough, not Martin. Seems they took hers and Martins first statements, too.

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Re – Investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

I took an additional statement from Mr Smith as requested. His wife does not want to make another statement. I showed him the video clip and he stated that it was not the clip that alerted him but the BBC news at 10 PM on 9th September 2007.

He has been contacted by numerous tabloid press looking for stories. He has been contacted by Mr Brian Kennedy who is supporting the McCann family to take part in a photo fit exercise. He has given no stories or helped in any photo fits. He sent a solicitor's letter to six papers in relation material that was printed that was misquoted. The Evening Herald paid his solicitor's fees and all papers printed an apology. His photograph appeared in another tabloid paper and this matter is being pursued at the moment.

I do not believe that Martin Smith is courting the press and my view his is a genuine person. He is known locally and is a very decent person.

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #106 on: October 24, 2013, 02:13:20 PM »
the thing  about the Smith sighting - is that he never claimed he saw his face - in fact he said in his initial statement that he didn't see the face

His claim that it could have been Gerry ( 60-80% ) is based on how Gerry carried one of the twins - and seeing him on TV weeks later

Coupled with  the fact that there are witnesses who put Gerry around the Tapas Bar at about 10'ish - can you ever see this getting anywhere near a court - he would get crucified

But lets forget all that - are we really still saying that Gerry at about 10.00pm - bearing in mind  what had just kicked off was really somewhere else desperately trying to " hide " his daughter ?? really ???  I just cant see how this could ever have happened - timing wise , why maddie was never ever found , why no one  else saw this ,

I think there is more credence in some of the theories that they had a false maddie going to the crèche every day than this - even over in haverns site which thinks Gerry is a close second to atilla the hun they don't think that this is possible

just cant see it

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2013, 02:19:51 PM »
the thing  about the Smith sighting - is that he never claimed he saw his face - in fact he said in his initial statement that he didn't see the face

His claim that it could have been Gerry ( 60-80% ) is based on how Gerry carried one of the twins - and seeing him on TV weeks later

Coupled with  the fact that there are witnesses who put Gerry around the Tapas Bar at about 10'ish - can you ever see this getting anywhere near a court - he would get crucified

But lets forget all that - are we really still saying that Gerry at about 10.00pm - bearing in mind  what had just kicked off was really somewhere else desperately trying to " hide " his daughter ?? really ???  I just cant see how this could ever have happened - timing wise , why maddie was never ever found , why no one  else saw this ,

I think there is more credence in some of the theories that they had a false maddie going to the crèche every day than this - even over in haverns site which thinks Gerry is a close second to atilla the hun they don't think that this is possible

just cant see it

Unfortunately, those who chose to believe Amaral's theory have to accept not just the implausible, but the downright ludicrous. Can you imagine it, two parents realise their daughter has fallen off the back of the sofa and died and the father says - Kate, we'll go down to dinner as normal, then at about ten you make a big fuss and get everyone running around while I nip the body down to the beach. If it's still there in three weeks we'll pick it back up, rent a car and drive it to Spain. Oh, and call your pals at Sky will you? The more people who know about this, the better.

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« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2013, 02:25:00 PM »
SY - TIMELINE IS CRITICAL
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2013, 02:26:42 PM »
We all know who are the believers of the McCann doxa. But who here is a believer of the Amaral/PJ thesis ? I can't remember one.

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« Reply #110 on: October 24, 2013, 02:35:10 PM »
We all know who are the believers of the McCann doxa. But who here is a believer of the Amaral/PJ thesis ? I can't remember one.

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Turn that question round the other way, too Anne.  We all know who are the believers of the Amaral/PJ doxa. . But who here is a believer of the McCann thesis ? I can't remember one.
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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #111 on: October 24, 2013, 03:58:55 PM »
We all know who are the believers of the McCann doxa. But who here is a believer of the Amaral/PJ thesis ? I can't remember one.

Amaral's thesis was that the parents disposed of the body ..............that was it . I have never to this day seen any plausible thesis on the how , when where why they did it - how it got from hidey place 1 to hire car . Ton of gaps to fill in to that thesis   

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #112 on: October 24, 2013, 04:06:13 PM »
Amaral's thesis was that the parents disposed of the body ..............that was it . I have never to this day seen any plausible thesis on the how , when where why they did it - how it got from hidey place 1 to hire car . Ton of gaps to fill in to that thesis

He also threw in some lurid insinuations about DP just for the hell of it - no attempt to actually link them in. And of course, there was all the nonsense about the hire car, sedation, the sofa, Kate's mental health - none of it fitted together into a single theory, it was all just mud and he hoped if he threw enough of it some would stick.

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« Reply #113 on: October 24, 2013, 04:15:45 PM »

In the light of the reopening of the case by Portugal who are now following The Abduction leads, do  any Sceptics now believe that The McCanns are Innocent?

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #114 on: October 24, 2013, 04:19:33 PM »
He also threw in some lurid insinuations about DP just for the hell of it - no attempt to actually link them in. And of course, there was all the nonsense about the hire car, sedation, the sofa, Kate's mental health - none of it fitted together into a single theory, it was all just mud and he hoped if he threw enough of it some would stick.
So if nobody is convinced of that "nonsense" (though Amaral's second name isn't Gaspar), what kind of relevance it has to mention him constantly ?

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #115 on: October 24, 2013, 04:20:27 PM »
In the light of the reopening of the case by Portugal who are now following The Abduction leads, do  any Sceptics now believe that The McCanns are Innocent?

There is a line in the sand that a lot of posters on this forum will never cross. It doesn't matter how much evidence is produced they will never believe that Maddie was abducted...never

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« Reply #116 on: October 24, 2013, 04:22:29 PM »
There is a line in the sand that a lot of posters on this forum will never cross. It doesn't matter how much evidence is produced they will never believe that Maddie was abducted...never

Sad but true. Even if another individual confessed there are still some who would be shrieking about patsies, whitewashes, freemasons and god knows what else.

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« Reply #117 on: October 24, 2013, 04:24:01 PM »
There is a line in the sand that a lot of posters on this forum will never cross. It doesn't matter how much evidence is produced they will never believe that Maddie was abducted...never

Oh.  Oh well, never mind.  It won't make an difference.  None of them are witnesses or even credible, so no one will take any notice.

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #118 on: October 24, 2013, 04:28:22 PM »
There is a line in the sand that a lot of posters on this forum will never cross. It doesn't matter how much evidence is produced they will never believe that Maddie was abducted...never

You guys seriously need to listen to what the police actually say themselves, instead of getting over-excited.

I'd believe it if and when we see evidence, but so far we haven't seen any. Instead we have seen Crimewatch in which the 'revelation' was "don't worry about that suspect we've been on about for 6 years, but here's another one we've known about for five but never bothered to show you previously".

No wonder people are still sceptical. 8(0(*

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Re: Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.
« Reply #119 on: October 24, 2013, 05:09:34 PM »
There is a line in the sand that a lot of posters on this forum will never cross. It doesn't matter how much evidence is produced they will never believe that Maddie was abducted...never

Alot of posters on is forum? Pls dont speak for others, ta, it all depends on the evidence  and credibility of info given in that hypothetical situation....I think its more of a matter of many here never believing she wasnt abducted! the closed minds cult club is....well, we all know where.....
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