The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??

[gilet]

Morning, I have the PJ files open in another window, could you please supply the name of the employee?

Thanks in advance!

No I am not in the habit of naming witnesses on demand. Match the folio page to the quote I made and you will find the name.

[gilet]

But if they want the public to think Madeleine did not sadly suffer the same fate as very nearly every other young child who disappears, a programme being shown six and a half years later needs to give viewers more than just the usual irrelevant background story of the holiday.

Clearly you missed it but the programme gave a great deal more than the background story. That is why it receieved such a massive response.

[icabodcrane]

Morning, I have the PJ files open in another window, could you please supply the name of the employee?

Thanks in advance!

There  is  no employee who  said,  with certainty,  that  Gerry McCann was in the tapas bar at precisely 10pm


We all make mistakes occasionally and Gilet has been given ample opportunity to retract the incorrect information he/she posted  ...  or to back it up 

He/she had repeatedly chosen not to

I feel it is within forum rules,  therefore,  to make it clear to members that Gilet posted a lie

[AnneGuedes]

There  is  no employee who  said,  with certainty,  that  Gerry McCann was in the tapas bar at precisely 10pm


We all make mistakes occasionally and Gilet has been given ample opportunity to retract the incorrect information he/she posted  ...  or to back it up 

He/she had repeatedly chosen not to

I feel it is within forum rules,  therefore,  to make it clear to members that Gilet posted a lie

Yes and it is not the only one, with all due respect to Benice.

[gilet]

Yes and it is not the only one, with all due respect to Benice.

Your post shows no respect whatsoever.

[AnneGuedes]

I say so. I was hoping Crimewatch would show us something new, but it didn't. All Crimewatch gave us was details of people 'acting suspiciously' in the days before the disappearance. You get claims like that in every single case, and huge numbers of them. It's a notoriously difficult, and unreliable, area of police work. And that's all Crimewatch had.

E-fits mainly, that why more than 2 thousands people called. That says more on Crimewatchers than on "acting suspiciously'' individuals.

[AnneGuedes]

Your post shows no respect whatsoever.

No respect for rumour, myth and other collective belief propagators.

[Cariad]

No I am not in the habit of naming witnesses on demand. Match the folio page to the quote I made and you will find the name.

Ok, here's a copy and paste of page 122

 JERONIMO TOMAS RODRIGUES SALCEDAS (Phone No "91 768 ####) - bartender:
- He saw the missing Madeleine, for the last time, yesterday at 16.45h next to the restaurant;
- He did not notice if from the group of British citizens (in number 8 or 9) that yesterday dined in restaurant (which was partly made up of the parents of the missing [child]), someone left [absented themself] during such dinner;
- He saw a walkie talkie on top of the table of the group, [like] those that are used to monitor noises of children, from a distance;
- He did not see a person of blonde "rastas", while he was working last night. ----------


I must have the wrong page/witness as he makes no comment about Gerry at all!

I'm not asking you to go searching through hundreds of files because I can't be bothered to, I'm asking you to point me in the right direction so I can do it myself.

Please may I have the name or the correct page number?

[Mr Gray]

There  is  no employee who  said,  with certainty,  that  Gerry McCann was in the tapas bar at precisely 10pm


We all make mistakes occasionally and Gilet has been given ample opportunity to retract the incorrect information he/she posted  ...  or to back it up 

He/she had repeatedly chosen not to

I feel it is within forum rules,  therefore,  to make it clear to members that Gilet posted a lie

Ok icad...you have set precedent..if you say Gilet posted a lie then you are calling him a liar

[icabodcrane]

Ok icad...you have set precedent..if you say Gilet posted a lie then you are calling him a liar

Yes,  I am

Note that Gilet has not  objected

All he/she has to do to defend the accusation is to post the name of the staff member who said, with certainty,  that Gerry McCann was in the tapas bar at precisely 10.00pm

[Cariad]

Ok, here's a copy and paste of page 122

 JERONIMO TOMAS RODRIGUES SALCEDAS (Phone No "91 768 ####) - bartender:
- He saw the missing Madeleine, for the last time, yesterday at 16.45h next to the restaurant;
- He did not notice if from the group of British citizens (in number 8 or 9) that yesterday dined in restaurant (which was partly made up of the parents of the missing [child]), someone left [absented themself] during such dinner;
- He saw a walkie talkie on top of the table of the group, [like] those that are used to monitor noises of children, from a distance;
- He did not see a person of blonde "rastas", while he was working last night. ----------


I must have the wrong page/witness as he makes no comment about Gerry at all!

I'm not asking you to go searching through hundreds of files because I can't be bothered to, I'm asking you to point me in the right direction so I can do it myself.

Please may I have the name or the correct page number?

Sorry to quote my own post, but I see gilet has been muted. I wonder if either davel or Benice who have supported gilet's claims could help me find the statement.

As you'll see from my quoted post, I'm not being lazy, I found gilet's page, it just didn't contain the information that he claimed it did. I'm assuming that I was looking at the wrong page so if I could have the correct page number or witness name I'd be very grateful.

TIA!

[ferryman]

There  is  no employee who  said,  with certainty,  that  Gerry McCann was in the tapas bar at precisely 10pm


We all make mistakes occasionally and Gilet has been given ample opportunity to retract the incorrect information he/she posted  ...  or to back it up 

He/she had repeatedly chosen not to

I feel it is within forum rules,  therefore,  to make it clear to members that Gilet posted a lie

Literally no body commented on Gerry's absence from the bar at the point of Kate's alert.

If he was absent, even just visiting the gents, that omission is remarkable. 

You'd have expected a full commentary in the files, of efforts to try to find him, where he was when found and who found him.

The absence of any such commentary can mean only one thing: Gerry was in the Tapas Restaurant at the time of Kate's alert, just as Joao Carlos says he was in his final report.