Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ

[C.Edwards]

But it wasn't behind the scenes when DCI Redwood so poignantly stated (twice) that the McCanns are not suspects.

Yeah, we've done that one before. Incidentally don't forget we're waiting for the name of the bloke you claim puts Gerry in place at "precisely" 10pm. Ta. 

[Lyall]

But it wasn't behind the scenes when DCI Redwood so poignantly stated (twice) that the McCanns are not suspects.

Well the PM clearly thinks they're not. Theresa May too. And Clegg and Miliband. And Lord Leveson. Etc, etc.

[Haskins]

I have never held to Amaral's thesis but I would say that it would be unwise for any investigators to rule anything out. They have to go where the evidence takes them.

[gilet]

And I say again, IF that is the case come resolution, then let's talk about it at the correct time.  I'm perfectly willing to entertain all possible hypotheses right now, including abduction.

Your desire to draw a line under an ongoing process just comes across as desperation. It cannot be proved either way as a police force would not declare them as suspects even if they were.  If you're right at the end of all this, I'll happily admit the fact.  I suspect you would eat your own liver before reciprocating in kind, however.

But you have an odd way of 'entertaining' the idea of abduction. You do so with the conviction that the McCanns as you have stated are 100% to blame so the abductor that you "entertain" is not to blame at all.

Such excusing of a vile child abductor is disgraceful.

[AnneGuedes]

Exactly. The dogs have never been able to confirm the presence of the body of Madeleine McCann in the apartment (or anywhere else in fact). They simply don't do that.

You talk as if you knew but you seem to ignore a lot on the dogs topic. The EVRD did detect the scent of cadaver in the 5A, was it Madeleine's, was it not, it can't be determined, but the police found nobody had died in this flat and, as you know, Madeleine has disappeared from this flat. QED.
You can read this, it's short and you certainly will learn something
http://newyorksearchandrescue.org/download/Scents%20and%20Sense-Ability%20K9%20article.pdf

[gilet]

I have never held to Amaral's thesis but I would say that it would be unwise for any investigators to rule anything out. They have to go where the evidence takes them.

Both teams having had two full years to review all the evidence have not ruled anything out lightly I am sure, and I am also sure that the statement made was not done lightly.

At some point in every case certain angles are ruled out. That has clearly happened in this case and it would appear that the evidence does not point to involvement by the McCanns or Redwood and Alves would not have been foolish enough to make those statements and nor would the PJ have involved the McCanns in their discussions.

[Lyall]

Both teams having had two full years to review all the evidence have not ruled anything out lightly I am sure, and I am also sure that the statement made was not done lightly.

At some point in every case certain angles are ruled out. That has clearly happened in this case and it would appear that the evidence does not point to involvement by the McCanns or Redwood and Alves would not have been foolish enough to make those statements and nor would the PJ have involved the McCanns in their discussions.

If you're happy with that, why the need for your OP? If you're happy with what you say, why do you care what we think?

[DCI]

I tend to agree with you that due to the fact that Kate & Gerry were invited to a post brief meeting that the PJ will not be pursuing them as people of interest BUT their lawyer is hardly an impartial source for quotes, until the PJ state on record that Kate & Gerry are not under suspicion then to speculate that they have said so is contributing further to  forum myths.

Here you are. From one of the horses mouths.

Re: Coming up on ITV news at 1.30
Post FSoares Today

Claudia79 wrote:

I've just been told that apparently Pedro do Carmo, from the PJ, informed the media the new line of investigation excludes the McCanns as suspects. I didn't know that and don't know if it is accurate.

It's accurate! I do not know how many more official statements some people still need.

[Luz]

On listening to DCI Redwood in the videos below there can be no doubt whatsoever that the thesis of involvement of the McCanns has been trashed by the detectives of Operation Grange.

They have comprehensively stated that they have no belief in the theory that either Gerry, Kate or their friends were involved.

Also there is clear evidence from Alves and from the involvement of the McCanns at the end of the meeting of the PJ Oporto team and SY that the PJ has no suspicion of the parents either.

And yet some people still think that the news of the last few days is favourable to Amaral and unfavourable to the McCanns.

Can anyone explain why?

Dream on that.

Amaral expressed that he was very happy that finally the investigation was reopened - he always expressed that it should never have been archived because it was not complete.
He was not the one that wanted he truth about the disappearance about Madeleine to stay not investigated, the donations to the Fund to find Madeleine had not his name on it.

[Kazcutt]

Here you are. From one of the horses mouths.

Re: Coming up on ITV news at 1.30
Post FSoares Today

Claudia79 wrote:

I've just been told that apparently Pedro do Carmo, from the PJ, informed the media the new line of investigation excludes the McCanns as suspects. I didn't know that and don't know if it is accurate.

It's accurate! I do not know how many more official statements some people still need.

Dont they have to be suspects in order to help the case ? Like murat it gives them rights ?

[DCI]

Dont they have to be suspects in order to help the case ? Like murat it gives them rights ?

Seems not according to the above. If FSoarse says its true it must be.
If they are supposed to be suspects to be assistants, what is Amaral supected of, if he wanted to be an assistant?

[Luz]

Dont they have to be suspects in order to help the case ? Like murat it gives them rights ?

Murat could be an assistant. It would have been immediate had he applied for the investigation to keep on during the first 20 days after the PGR published their decision in 2008.But even now he can apply, as an interested citizen.

Everyone can apply as long as he/she has enough money to pay a diligent lawyer to make a valid argument that there is interest in being available to the Public MInistry.

An assistant has no powers. In fact its powers become limited because they will not be able to discuss anything they learn about the investigation (and that will be very limited) and will have to make themselves available to every request by the Public Ministry.

[Kazcutt]

Seems not according to the above. If FSoarse says its true it must be.
If they are supposed to be suspects to be assistants, what is Amaral supected of, if he wanted to be an assistant?

Latest news says they are no longer suspects .mind blowing this lot

[gilet]

You talk as if you knew but you seem to ignore a lot on the dogs topic. The EVRD did detect the scent of cadaver in the 5A, was it Madeleine's, was it not, it can't be determined, but the police found nobody had died in this flat and, as you know, Madeleine has disappeared from this flat. QED.
You can read this, it's short and you certainly will learn something
http://newyorksearchandrescue.org/download/Scents%20and%20Sense-Ability%20K9%20article.pdf

Please!

Do you not actually understand that cadaver odour is not a body, that cadaver odour can be present in a room when no body has been present there?

I am staggered by the low levels of comprehension of the subject demonstrated in your post.

One of the most well-known child disappearance cases in the UK had the perfect scenario of dog alerting to cadaver odour. But no body was present and no body had been present. It was a bed that was contaminated with cadaver odour which had been brought into the room.

There is no proof anybody died in the apartment.

QED

[gilet]

Dream on that.

Amaral expressed that he was very happy that finally the investigation was reopened - he always expressed that it should never have been archived because it was not complete.
He was not the one that wanted he truth about the disappearance about Madeleine to stay not investigated, the donations to the Fund to find Madeleine had not his name on it.

That little rant does not explain anything though.

It most certainly does not explain away the absolute fact that SY and now the PJ have thoroughly trashed his thesis does it?

His thesis is the McCanns are the guilty party (at least for covering up a death) but SY and now the PJ have thrown that idea out.

And yet you say he claims to be happy. Really happy deep down I wonder?