Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ

[carlymichelle]

i dont care  if a monkeys uncle tells me that the mcanns are cleared    i will always say that without the mcanns   negelct of the twins and maddie none of this would have  ever  have happned   and people will not forget that either

[AnneGuedes]

Kindly stop making false accusations against me Anne.  I do not spread disinformation -  my whole reason for being here is because I am opposed to disinformation of any kind.

I am entitled to voice my opinion on this case without you making snide comments just because you don't agree with me.

I'll never let you spread disinformation, Benice, like pretending I lied when I protested (recently) that Mr Amaral didn't sleep the night Madeleine disappeared, one of the inventions made up by Gilet to fit the campaign of discredit of Mr Amaral (whose thesis I don't agree with).

[Haskins]

Hi Everyone, Followed this sad,tragic  case of Madeleine from day one as I use to work in legal and this interests me and I care. Thrilled PJ have at long last decided to open the case. I feel strongly by reading the files The McCanns are not guilty and know now they definitely should not have left their children. What troubles me after PJ & SY have said The McCanns are not guilty ppl still harp on and try to find myths  that they are, very odd minds. 

Hi comanche and welcome. I agree to a great extent, but I wouldn't go quite so far. The truth isn't known. However what is clear is that Maddie vanished, her parents have suffered to a great extent, and the authorities have been unable to bring any kind of case against them. I therefore do think we should give them the benefit of the doubt, at least until there is hard evidence to think otherwise.

I do understand the different points of view though. On the one side you have the people who are appalled that others can expend so much time and energy accusing the McCann's when they have clearly suffered and when the  authorities appear to have ruled them out as suspects. On the other hand, they did leave their children unattended and statistically parents should always be treated as suspects. And the original police chief did make allegations, even if these are no longer du jour.

All this makes for a good debate and nearly 47,000 posts on this forum alone.

[comanche]

carly that is true but they are cleared of a criminal act by PJ & SY and to persecute them is very wrong.

[gilet]

It is amazing how some posters here only refer to the McCann bible and consider, doing so, that their claims are "evidence". Do they really see it as an objective account of facts ? Or is their unique purpose to brainwash posters thanks to their continuous hammering of the gospel, i.e the "good news" ?
When the fact doesn't exist in the bible, no problem, they extrapolate it according to what they call "common sense" ! That's how they pretend to know better what happened. A pity they can't extend this knowledge to discovering where is Madeleine.

It is amazing how some posters here only refer to the Amaral bible and consider, doing so, that their claims are "evidence". Do they really see it as an objective account of facts? Or is their unique purpose to brainwash posters thanks to their constant hammering of the gospel, i.e. the "bad news"?
When the fact doesn't exist in the bible, no problem, they extrapolate it according to what they call "common sense"! That's how they pretend to know better what happened. A pity they can't extend this knowledge to even having the consideration that Madeleine McCann may still be alive and findable.

[Apostate]

Can someone point to where the PJ and SY have "trashed" Amaral's theory? Thanks in advance.

[gilet]

Relax gilet. There's nothing in the book that wasn't already in the public domain.

How in the name of the almighty would you know?

You have admitted that you don't have the foggiest what you are talking about.

You state you have never read the book.

Yet bizarrely you also know it contains no surprises.

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

[gilet]

Yes and this betrays the role on this forum of certain posters who affect moderation (be nice !) but are here, not to argue in a civilised manner, but to spread disinformation.

There is no disinformation in my posts. No matter how hard you have tried you have always failed to evidence that rather abusive claim.

Whereas your pretence that stating for example that Amaral was convicted for his actions in another missing child case and that he was dismissed from the McCann case is libel, is in fact pure disinformation.

[gilet]

i dont care  if a monkeys uncle tells me that the mcanns are cleared    i will always say that without the mcanns   negelct of the twins and maddie none of this would have  ever  have happned   and people will not forget that either

Being stuck on that mantra will not solve the case, will not find a missing little girl and will not bring to justice the abductor and remove him from a position in which he can attack other children.

You are welcome to remain stuck with your mantra. Others among us are more concerned about finding the child and seeing justice done to the vile person who abducted her.

[Lyall]

How in the name of the almighty would you know?

You have admitted that you don't have the foggiest what you are talking about.

You state you have never read the book.

Yet bizarrely you also know it contains no surprises.

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

I said I haven't read all of it

See?

[Lyall]

How in the name of the almighty would you know?

You have admitted that you don't have the foggiest what you are talking about.

You state you have never read the book.

Yet bizarrely you also know it contains no surprises.

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

Others on the forum did read all of it. It's quite simple gilet.

[gilet]

I'll never let you spread disinformation, Benice, like pretending I lied when I protested (recently) that Mr Amaral didn't sleep the night Madeleine disappeared, one of the inventions made up by Gilet to fit the campaign of discredit of Mr Amaral (whose thesis I don't agree with).

Are you being funny?

Have you really no idea that Amaral having heard of the disappearance, left the bar/restaurant after midnight, called at the police station, went home, made one text and some phone calls, looked in on his daughter and then did what? Are you saying he was making phone calls for six hours? Really?

[gilet]

I said I haven't read all of it

See?

Indeed so you do not know then if it contains surprises in the sections you have not read do you?

And you cannot comment as if you do know what the full book contains can you?

I wonder what your reason is for not having bothered even to read the book that is at the centre of much of the discussion. It is extremely short and takes only a few hours at most.

[gilet]

Can someone point to where the PJ and SY have "trashed" Amaral's theory? Thanks in advance.

Its in the OP.

Perhaps you can't be bothered to read it like Lyall can't be bothered to read Amaral's book but sees fit to comment on it nevertheless.

By announcing that the McCanns are not suspects any longer they have thrown Amaral's theory that they are right out of the window with the proverbial dish water.

[Lyall]

Indeed so you do not know then if it contains surprises in the sections you have not read do you?

And you cannot comment as if you do know what the full book contains can you?

I wonder what your reason is for not having bothered even to read the book that is at the centre of much of the discussion. It is extremely short and takes only a few hours at most.

I told you. We already knew everything substantial in it.

It's fair to say many were disappointed by the book, though, of course, despite what is claimed, he wasn't writing it for us on the forums.