Do you think we are to blame

[Kazcutt]

Do you think the massive reaction from us to madeleine mccanns story didnt help her fate ? Was the original mirror  forum and 3arguidos the passing of information so fast through internet damaging for her .

I feel guilty sometimes that this can not be helping but then i remember her parents begging for us to stick with them .
Id hate to think amaral was influenced by US thats all of us both sides . He did at some point send info on 3as ....................

I hope not

[Eleanor]

No, we are not to blame.  All that we have done is to refute the scurrilous lies and deliberate misinformation.  The appalling campaign against The McCanns and ultimately Madeleine would have gone on unchecked without our involvement.
Our efforts have helped to keep the search alive and to keep Madeleine in high profile.  And Kate and Gerry know what we do.
Apart from that, The British Government and The Portuguese Government know  how appalled so many of us are.

[gilet]

I agree Eleanor, the damage to the search has been done by those pretending that they know with certainty that Madeleine is dead and then proceeding to persuade others of that when there is not a shred of evidence which proves that to be the case.

Such people are quite beyond my understanding. Why they have hearts of stone and cannot even hope that a missing child might be returned to her parents I will never, ever understand.

And the kind of person who plays at being Zeferrelli in order to spam the internet with videos which claim a child is dead when there is no proof of it is the lowest of the low in my opinion.

[VIXTE]

There are people who still work on 'recruiting' new believers that Madeleine is dead.
This would potentially mean that if someone even sees Madeleine alive they wouldn't report it due to the pushed belief that she is dead.
Luckily now the two teams of professionals are working on the case and there is no centralised old fashion style of policing which Mr Amaral pursued.
Everyone can have a theory but in real professional world behind 'the theory' there should be hard facts supported by modern technology proofs, luckily again, available in professional environments in our modern times.

[Eleanor]

I am not even sure that The British Government would have done anything about this farce if we hadn't kept up a relentless stink against Internet Abuse.  And The Portuguese Judiciary almost certainly would not have done.
And then no one would ever have know what a horror story Goncalo Amaral is.

And it's no good telling me that we abuse him.  He started this.  We merely retaliate.  And glory be, it seems to have worked.  Everything is now back on track where it ought to have been in May 2007.  Although I sometimes wonder from where I got the strength to carry on for six and a half years.

[Benice]

There are people who still work on 'recruiting' new believers that Madeleine is dead.
This would potentially mean that if someone even sees Madeleine alive they wouldn't report it due to the pushed belief that she is dead.
Luckily now the two teams of professionals are working on the case and there is no centralised old fashion style of policing which Mr Amaral pursued.Everyone can have a theory but in real professional world behind 'the theory' there should be hard facts supported by modern technology proofs, luckily again, available in professional environments in our modern times.

Indeed.   Also I doubt if modern day policing would entertain the idea of anyone's  'dream' being a credible reason for a significant change in the whole direction of a case to take place.   

[VIXTE]

Indeed.   Also I doubt if modern day policing would entertain the idea of anyone's  'dream' being a credible reason for a significant change in the whole direction of a case to take place.

Thank you! That is what I was trying to say..  They must have a real physical evidence and a clearer picture now to be able to reopen the investigation.
The technology has improved so much in 6 years and the policing methods as well.

Also, maybe if this crime has happened in some small English town it would cause a similar way of dealing with it.. kind of the way shown in black and white movies in Sherlock Holmes times.. the way the Amarals team worked on it.

There is lot that can be done actually, computer forensics,  mobile phone forensics, bank transactions.. all of this still can be checked and analysed better than it was the case 6 years ago..

[Mr Moderator]

You could argue that if it hadn't been for the [ censored word] and Amaral in particular then Madeleine's disappearance would never have received the massive worldwide exposure it has done.

[gilet]

You could argue that if it hadn't been for the [ censored word] and Amaral in particular then Madeleine's disappearance would never have received the massive worldwide exposure it has done.

Quite a perverse argument considering that one of the great bugbears of the [ censored word] is the amount of exposure the McCanns have garnered for themselves.

And rather missing the point that exposure of the wrong kind as in proclaiming that a child is dead is not in any way conducive to the aim if at all possible of finding their daughter alive. It rather puts people of even bothering.

[xtina]

do you  think we are  to  blame  ....

No....defiantly not ....so  many have suffered.....blamed  for  one  thing  or  another ...like it is everyones  fault  but theirs

IMO .....the only ones to  blame  is k  & g  mcc........who  left their  children alone  in  the first  place...

[gilet]

do you  think we are  to  blame  ....

No....defiantly not ....so  many have suffered.....blamed  for  one  thing  or  another ...like it is everyones  fault  but theirs

IMO .....the only ones to  blame  is k  & g  mcc........who  left their  children alone  in  the first  place...

Yet another poster who for some bizarre reason lays no blame whatsoever with the abductor.

Why do so many anti McCanns seem to excuse the vile crime of  child abduction so glibly?

[xtina]

Yet another poster who for some bizarre reason lays no blame whatsoever with the abductor.

Why do so many anti McCanns seem to excuse the vile crime of  child abduction so glibly?

because........ IMO ,,,,,,,there was no abductor ...OK

[gilet]

because........ IMO ,,,,,,,there was no abductor ...OK

Ah so now you are far cleverer than all those stupid professional policemen in London and Oporto who really don't have a clue as to what is going on and are just wasting millions of pounds chasing their own tails. I see.

[ferryman]

because........ IMO ,,,,,,,there was no abductor ...OK

But what if your opinion is wrong?

[imustpointout]

I don't think "we" (as in forums or forum posters) have had any influence one way or another over the years.

The main thing "we" have done - is argue in a very tiny corner of the internet with those who don't have the same opinion.