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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #915 on: January 04, 2014, 11:02:40 PM »
And another thought regarding burglary -

Isn't 9 -10 pm a rather strange time?

Don't most burglaries occur in the dead of night or very early in the morning when people are in deepest sleep and least liable to disturbance? (Or robberies during the day when people are out of the house).

Between 9 and 10pm, most people are at home but not in bed. A strange time to break into a property.

Also a time when there would bea good chance of encountering neighbours and passers by in the street, increasing the chances of being caught. Unlike the dead of night.

Only reason for entering a property between 9 and 10 would be if there was prior knowledge that the residents were not there. In this case, however, the children were in the house and the parents were nearby - and anyone involved with the Ocean Club would have been aware of the fact.

Online Davel

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #916 on: January 04, 2014, 11:05:23 PM »
And another thought regarding burglary -

Isn't 9 -10 pm a rather strange time?

Don't most burglaries occur in the dead of night or very early in the morning when people are in deepest sleep and least liable to disturbance? (Or robberies during the day when people are out of the house).

Between 9 and 10pm, most people are at home but not in bed. A strange time to break into a property.

Also a time when there would bea good chance of encountering neighbours and passers by in the street, increasing the chances of being caught. Unlike the dead of night.

Only reason for entering a property between 9 and 10 would be if there was prior knowledge that the residents were not there. In this case, however, the children were in the house and the parents were nearby - and anyone involved with the Ocean Club would have been aware of the fact.

according to the article there had been attempted burglary the week before at an apartment where children were present...the adults were also present...don't know what time this was
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Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #917 on: January 04, 2014, 11:11:18 PM »
And another thought regarding burglary -

Isn't 9 -10 pm a rather strange time?

Don't most burglaries occur in the dead of night or very early in the morning when people are in deepest sleep and least liable to disturbance? (Or robberies during the day when people are out of the house).

Between 9 and 10pm, most people are at home but not in bed. A strange time to break into a property.

Also a time when there would bea good chance of encountering neighbours and passers by in the street, increasing the chances of being caught. Unlike the dead of night.

Only reason for entering a property between 9 and 10 would be if there was prior knowledge that the residents were not there. In this case, however, the children were in the house and the parents were nearby - and anyone involved with the Ocean Club would have been aware of the fact.

Apparently alot of burglaries happen in holiday villages, where they do,  in the middle of the day when people are out at the beach......in that context the mccanns locked their flat lock stock andbarrel before they went out each day(statements confirm this is what they did) but left it bloody open at night with their two and three yr old kids in there...couldnt make it up

Online Davel

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #918 on: January 04, 2014, 11:15:03 PM »
Apparently alot of burglaries happen in holiday villages, where they do,  in the middle of the day when people are out at the beach......in that context the mccanns locked their flat lock stock andbarrel before they went out each day(statements confirm this is what they did) but left it bloody open at night with their two and three yr old kids in there...couldnt make it up

 just the front..or is that back...patio door left unlocked and that was visible from where they were eating
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #919 on: January 04, 2014, 11:15:58 PM »
according to the article there had been attempted burglary the week before at an apartment where children were present...the adults were also present...don't know what time this was

Yes, would be very interesting to know the time.

However a major difference there is that the parents were present. It does look like a classic attempted burglary. Hard to imagine anyone trying to take a child from a small holiday apartment when the parents are present.

In our case, the parents would have been away from the property at the time of the so-called burglary and I think that is highly significant.

Looking at it from the point of view of an abduction scenario, it was the only time of day when the children were on their own. All the other times they were with their parents or with childcare workers.

A 'burglary' at the bizarre time of  9 - 10 o clock at night - when the children just happen to be alone. I don't think so.


Online Davel

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #920 on: January 04, 2014, 11:17:54 PM »
Yes, would be very interesting to know the time.

However a major difference there is that the parents were present. It does look like a classic attempted burglary. Hard to imagine anyone trying to take a child from a small holiday apartment when the parents are present.

In our case, the parents would have been away from the property at the time of the so-called burglary and I think that is highly significant.

Looking at it from the point of view of an abduction scenario, it was the only time of day when the children were on their own. All the other times they were with their parents or with childcare workers.

A 'burglary' at the bizarre time of  9 - 10 o clock at night - when the children just happen to be alone. I don't think so.

 Then lets hope SY can investigate if only to rule it out
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #921 on: January 04, 2014, 11:21:20 PM »
Then lets hope SY can investigate if only to rule it out

Let's hope so.

Strange the thought that such a scenario could be being peddled by Mitchell or team - if that is the case - when it seems to have little sense.

Offline pegasus

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #922 on: January 04, 2014, 11:21:50 PM »
We don't know what happened...could be an attempt to silence Maddie went too far...we will probably never know
No forensic trace of anyone going through the opened window
+ No passports cameras jewellery taken
= Disturbed just before climbing in? IMO.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #923 on: January 04, 2014, 11:24:11 PM »
No forensic trace of anyone going through the opened window
+ No passports cameras jewellery taken
= Disturbed just before climbing in? IMO.

But not, presumably, by anyone with too much knowledge of the resort...

Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #924 on: January 04, 2014, 11:25:06 PM »
No forensic trace of anyone going through the opened window
+ No passports cameras jewellery taken
= Disturbed just before climbing in? IMO.

And then? What happend?

Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #925 on: January 04, 2014, 11:32:03 PM »
A GANG...3 people lol...

Eamonn Holmes asked a RESIDENT and a guy in the know about any burglaries in the area and he stated he didnt know of ANY not loads anyway........

A GANG would mean lots of burglaries going on and surely would have been noted. One would think.

It was the quiet season too, so why would a GANG be working at the beginning of the season when there was small pickings.

Its a huge jump from taking away a passport or two, to taking away a 4 year old child...who surely would have screamed blue murder if THREE strange men tried to take her away.

IF they had got into the apartment why wouldnt they also snatch the passports etc.....

All this mobile phone malarky proves nothing.

Surely in this day and age after 7 years you would know who was where....and if they were a gang they would have pay as you go lol without GPS.

The Mail is one of those papers I ignore. Didnt they push tractor man as being the suspect.

Now here is odd. In the same article it says SY is not looking at TRACTORMAN, yet he was a known thief, according to all the media.

I cant imagine the child being taken out of the flat quietly no way......

PDL is supposed to be a quiet village, the way you read it, well you wouldnt want to stay there, full of PEDOPHILES, BURGLARS, AND ANYTHING else you would like to throw at them poor citizens.....

Its all rubbish imo too


Wonder if one if this gang had cadaver scent lingering all over him too to spread around  all over 5a while the other two looked for jewels or nicked a toddler! Ludicrous

And according to the daily wail mail sy know who these people are but the portuguese cant hekp em arrest them lol toooo funny
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #926 on: January 04, 2014, 11:41:51 PM »
A GANG...3 people lol...

Eamonn Holmes asked a RESIDENT and a guy in the know about any burglaries in the area and he stated he didnt know of ANY not loads anyway........

A GANG would mean lots of burglaries going on and surely would have been noted. One would think.

It was the quiet season too, so why would a GANG be working at the beginning of the season when there was small pickings.


Its a huge jump from taking away a passport or two, to taking away a 4 year old child...who surely would have screamed blue murder if THREE strange men tried to take her away.

IF they had got into the apartment why wouldnt they also snatch the passports etc.....

All this mobile phone malarky proves nothing.

Surely in this day and age after 7 years you would know who was where....and if they were a gang they would have pay as you go lol without GPS.

The Mail is one of those papers I ignore. Didnt they push tractor man as being the suspect.

Now here is odd. In the same article it says SY is not looking at TRACTORMAN, yet he was a known thief, according to all the media.

I cant imagine the child being taken out of the flat quietly no way......

PDL is supposed to be a quiet village, the way you read it, well you wouldnt want to stay there, full of PEDOPHILES, BURGLARS, AND ANYTHING else you would like to throw at them poor citizens.....

Who are you referring to with regard to Eammon Holmes, columbo?  Do you mean Paul Luckman?  PL didn't appear to know much about the burglaries, but they definitely took place  (on Madeleine's block , in the few weeks preceding the McCanns' arrival in PdL). SY also mentioned them on Crimewatch.

Presumably it is one of these burglaries that is being alluded to in the recent articles...

or have I got the wrong end of the stick...

Offline Angelo222

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #927 on: January 04, 2014, 11:44:10 PM »
The Daily Mail garbage has reached New Zealand with the Herald carrying the same rubbish story.  Heaven preserve us from journalists.   @)(++(*
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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #928 on: January 04, 2014, 11:48:07 PM »
The Daily Mail garbage has reached New Zealand with the Herald carrying the same rubbish story.  Heaven preserve us from journalists.   @)(++(*

Wont affect mrs pt judge


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Offline pegasus

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #929 on: January 04, 2014, 11:52:53 PM »
Strange how the Mail said on 15 Oct 2013:

"In the same week, a year before she was abducted, a burglar tried to rob another apartment in the Ocean Club resort but fled empty-handed after a toddler screamed"

But now the Mail say on 04 Jan 2014:

Police believe the thieves, including at least one Portuguese man, had already carried out one raid in the resort of Praia da Luz, disturbing a child. That child’s parents, who had been drinking outside the property, rushed inside to find the intruders had fled.
During their bungled investigation Portuguese police attached no significance to the break-in, which came a few days before Madeleine disappeared.

Did the Mail change "a year before" into "a few days before", accidentally, or deliberately ?
If so why?

Sources: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460514/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-speak-delight-overwhelming-response-Crimewatch-reconstruction.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533510/Police-identify-three-prime-suspects-abduction-Madeleine-McCann-following-analysis-mobile-phone-data.html
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