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Offline jassi

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #300 on: November 03, 2013, 02:54:58 PM »
Innocent? Who can know that but the people involved. After Crimewatch you ought to be questioning everything.

Unless you are a true believer.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline Myster

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #301 on: November 03, 2013, 02:55:23 PM »
For Anne, Madeleine's bed near the inside wall complete with blanket and cuddlecat.


Offline imustpointout

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #302 on: November 03, 2013, 02:56:29 PM »
Innocent? Who can know that but the people involved. After Crimewatch you ought to be questioning everything.

well exactly - only those involved can possibly know - but every day something sinister it thought of and discussed.

I didn't need Crimewatch to make me question everything - I have done it for years, and am still doing it.

Lyall

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #303 on: November 03, 2013, 02:57:18 PM »
Unless you are a true believer.

?{)(** Yep.

Offline imustpointout

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #304 on: November 03, 2013, 02:58:48 PM »
the untidy bed will keep non-believers going for years.

Oh - on second thoughts - it already has.

Offline Myster

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #305 on: November 03, 2013, 03:12:24 PM »
why didn't you assume she was an untidy woman on holiday and not particularly bothered if a bed was messed up or not?
Only because most of the women I've known like things neat and tidy (especially unmade beds) wherever they're staying, so I'm probably choosing the wrong type.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #306 on: November 03, 2013, 03:29:48 PM »
For Anne, Madeleine's bed near the inside wall complete with blanket and cuddlecat.


It doesn't look like having been slept in, it looks that it was untidily prepared for the child to get in.

Offline imustpointout

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #307 on: November 03, 2013, 03:31:55 PM »
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Correio da Manhã - paper edition

(Translated by Montclair)

1 November 2013

Profile led PJ to the abductor of Maddie

The immigrant also showed agressive traits and suspicious behaviour towards children.
The suspect's family refuses to collaborate.

Eduardo Dâmaso/Tânia Laranjo/Ana Isabel Fonseca

An aggressive and conflictual personality and suspicious behaviour towards children led the PJ investigation to the Cabo Verde immigrant, indicated in the abduction and murder of Maddie.

The PJ inspectors, who studied the case and led to it's recent reopening, elaborated a profile of the suspect - who died in 2009 at 40 - and concluded that the traits presented give more strength to the possibility that he was the author of the crime. The PJ, also, had done the same in 2007, when Robert Murat had been made "arguido". The profile had been made with the help of two British criminologists and indicated that the luso-british could be responsible for the disappearance.

As for the Cabo Verde immigrant now being investigated, he had a past marked some violent episodes. He was also involved in a labour conflict, having left in a dispute. This is what happened in the Ocean Clube resort, in Praia da Luz, in Lagos, where the suspect worked. He lost his job a short time before the girl disappeared, 3 May 2007.

The PJ has, during the last few days, attempted to reconstruct the last steps of the suspect and to try to find the places where he could have hidden Madeleine's body, who was 4 at the time of the disappearance. The suspect's family has not collaborated with the PJ, which has hindered the investigation. The wife has not offered any leads as to the last years of the life of her companion. The suspect had a record for theft. In 1996, he received a pardon from the President Jorge Sampaio and was not thrown out of the country.

The Family admits suing for defamation

The family of the man who is suspected of abducting Maddie, has already admitted suing the state, for offense against a deceased person. The wife, who refused to speak to CM, is supposed to have already contacted a lawyer in order to go ahead with a complaint for offenses to the memory of a deceased person. This complaint could come up against the fact that the PJ is only studying one line of investigation, which had already happened in the past. Robert Murat, for example, who had been made arguido, was never compensated for the damages suffered because of the investigation. It would be difficult in the Portuguese judicial system for the widow to prove this, although the closest relatives speak of an enormous "shame" felt by the widow and son.

Murat was considered a suspect

The name of Robert Murat was put on the table, days after the disappearance of Maddie. At the time, the PJ counted on the help of Joe Sullivan and the superintendent Graham Hill, two renowned British criminologists, to analyse Murat's personality. The evaluation made of the luso-british led the authorities to conclude that he had 70 to 85% possibility of fitting in the profile of Maddie's abductor.

The criminologist also said, at the time, that Robert Murat "never gave credible explanations".

Details

Lived in Lagos

The suspect of Madeleine McCann's abduction lived the last few years in Portelas, in Lagos county.

"Unable to defend himself"

The family of the suspect told CM that they are indignant that the PJ are investigating someone who has already died and is unable to defend themself.

He was in the area

The mobile pings reveal that the suspect was in the area of the resort the day of the crime

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #308 on: November 03, 2013, 03:35:06 PM »
It doesn't look like having been slept in, it looks that it was untidily prepared for the child to get in.


Kate McCann (interviewed for BBC Breakfast TV):

"Is it right for somebody to go into your apartment and take your child out [of] your bed?".

"I bet the parents dunnit" (Me)

Offline Myster

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #309 on: November 03, 2013, 04:03:17 PM »
It doesn't look like having been slept in, it looks that it was untidily prepared for the child to get in.

From the witness statement of Joao Barreiras, Criminal Investigation Dept. Portimao. on arriving at OC the day after she disappeared...

When they arrived at the scene, which they immediately identified due to the presence of GNR officers, as well as quite a lot of people who were walking around the street searching for the child, they immediately went to the apartment in question, where they found several people, including some GNR officers, as well as the head of the Lagos GNR station.   He states that the people inside the apartment and close to it, entered and left the building and circulated in the whole apartment, completely freely, in other words, without there being any restriction or care in preserving the scene.   He said that these people were the friends of the parents of the missing girl and a lady responsible for the resort called Silvia.   He was shown the room the child had disappeared from, having noticed that people also entered and left that room without any care in the sense of preserving traces. Inside this room there were two children, babies, sleeping in two cots placed in the middle of the room.

From the looks of the above anyone - mother, father, or friends could have interfered with Madeleine's bedclothes, folding and unfolding the bed linen or handling her toy and security blanket before the scene was sealed off.

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #310 on: November 03, 2013, 04:10:16 PM »
It doesn't look like having been slept in, it looks that it was untidily prepared for the child to get in.

Thats not what these GNR thought.

José María Batista Roque

During the search he did not find anything strange apart from the bedclothes on Madeleine's bed, which were too tidy, it appeared that she had been picked up from or had left the bed with great care. There was a mark on the sheet that appeared to be made by a child's body.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id258.html

Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa

Then, with his colleague, he searched the apartment. He opened all the cupboards of the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and he checked under the beds and in the fridge. He did not see the washing machine. He did not see anything strange during the search and there was no sign of a break in. As regards the bed clothes of the child’s bed, he found it to have a normal disposition.
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Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #311 on: November 03, 2013, 04:20:32 PM »
excuse me - did she speak with parenthesis?

Obviously not, it was put in for clarity .....petty petty again

From 2.30 just for you IMPO in case you are wondering if it was said, etc etc.



Back to the latest news then.....but not going to sit and say nothing when attacked because I asked a simple question and made a simple observation...




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Offline imustpointout

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #312 on: November 03, 2013, 04:25:29 PM »
Quote
Correio da Manhã - paper edition

(Translated by Montclair)

1 November 2013

Profile led PJ to the abductor of Maddie

The immigrant also showed agressive traits and suspicious behaviour towards children.
The suspect's family refuses to collaborate.

Eduardo Dâmaso/Tânia Laranjo/Ana Isabel Fonseca

An aggressive and conflictual personality and suspicious behaviour towards children led the PJ investigation to the Cabo Verde immigrant, indicated in the abduction and murder of Maddie.

The PJ inspectors, who studied the case and led to it's recent reopening, elaborated a profile of the suspect - who died in 2009 at 40 - and concluded that the traits presented give more strength to the possibility that he was the author of the crime. The PJ, also, had done the same in 2007, when Robert Murat had been made "arguido". The profile had been made with the help of two British criminologists and indicated that the luso-british could be responsible for the disappearance.

As for the Cabo Verde immigrant now being investigated, he had a past marked some violent episodes. He was also involved in a labour conflict, having left in a dispute. This is what happened in the Ocean Clube resort, in Praia da Luz, in Lagos, where the suspect worked. He lost his job a short time before the girl disappeared, 3 May 2007.

The PJ has, during the last few days, attempted to reconstruct the last steps of the suspect and to try to find the places where he could have hidden Madeleine's body, who was 4 at the time of the disappearance. The suspect's family has not collaborated with the PJ, which has hindered the investigation. The wife has not offered any leads as to the last years of the life of her companion. The suspect had a record for theft. In 1996, he received a pardon from the President Jorge Sampaio and was not thrown out of the country.

The Family admits suing for defamation

The family of the man who is suspected of abducting Maddie, has already admitted suing the state, for offense against a deceased person. The wife, who refused to speak to CM, is supposed to have already contacted a lawyer in order to go ahead with a complaint for offenses to the memory of a deceased person. This complaint could come up against the fact that the PJ is only studying one line of investigation, which had already happened in the past. Robert Murat, for example, who had been made arguido, was never compensated for the damages suffered because of the investigation. It would be difficult in the Portuguese judicial system for the widow to prove this, although the closest relatives speak of an enormous "shame" felt by the widow and son.

Murat was considered a suspect

The name of Robert Murat was put on the table, days after the disappearance of Maddie. At the time, the PJ counted on the help of Joe Sullivan and the superintendent Graham Hill, two renowned British criminologists, to analyse Murat's personality. The evaluation made of the luso-british led the authorities to conclude that he had 70 to 85% possibility of fitting in the profile of Maddie's abductor.

The criminologist also said, at the time, that Robert Murat "never gave credible explanations".

Details

Lived in Lagos

The suspect of Madeleine McCann's abduction lived the last few years in Portelas, in Lagos county.

"Unable to defend himself"

The family of the suspect told CM that they are indignant that the PJ are investigating someone who has already died and is unable to defend themself.

He was in the area

The mobile pings reveal that the suspect was in the area of the resort the day of the crime

why do people want to ignore this on the news thread?

Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #313 on: November 03, 2013, 04:26:25 PM »
ah so you add things for clarity.

There was nothing strange in what Kate said.

theres no ah, involved, I didnt add or take anything away! I never typed that quote....talk about flogging a dead horse..... give it up now.......not responding to any more silly posts here......


@davel, well gosh, thanks for that

Offline imustpointout

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #314 on: November 03, 2013, 04:34:44 PM »
the same UK tabloid press that was being applauded because they picked up an unfounded Sunday Times article from last weekend.
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