Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.

[icabodcrane]

The efits were produced in conjunction with the Met detectives during Operation Grange.
Again, I ask why the independently produced images differ so much, when 7 years ago Mr Smith clearly told the PJ he did NOT see the face of the imaginary man?

That's not true

Scotland Yard had nothing to do with the production of those e fits

They already existed before the Yard ever got involved in the case

The e fits of  the man the Smith family saw carrying a child who matched Madeleine's appearance  were aquired by Henri Exton  (  who was a paid employee of the McCanns  )   

The e fits were passed to the McCanns with the advice that they be made public as soon a possible

The McCanns ignored that advice and kept the efits out of the public domain for more than five years

Why do you think they did that  ?   

[misty]

That's not true

Scotland Yard had nothing to do with the production of those e fits

They already existed before the Yard ever got involved in the case

The e fits of  the man the Smith family saw carrying a child who matched Madeleine's appearance  were aquired by Henri Exton  (  who was a paid employee of the McCanns  )   

The e fits were passed to the McCanns with the advice that they be made public as soon a possible

The McCanns ignored that advice and kept the efits out of the public domain for more than five years

Why do you think they did that  ?

Where is the evidence that the computerised efits were sitting in the files? One of those media reports people choose to ignore in favour of TTOTL?

[Brietta]

The efits of the man the Smith family saw belonged  to the McCanns

They were free to show them to the public  ...  indeed,  Henri Exton advised them, as a matter of urgency,  to do just that

They chose not to

They chose to keep those e fits out of the public domain

Why  ?

I'm not sure if I would take the word of a person whose organisation was dismissed from acting for the
Drs McCann and Madeleine.

[icabodcrane]

I'm not sure if I would take the word of a person whose organisation was dismissed from acting for the
Drs McCann and Madeleine.

I don't understand what you are saying Brietta

What is it that you do not take Henri Exton's word for  ? 

You do realise that the report he wrote   (  which included the efits of the man the Smith family saw  )  was  seen by the Sunday Times  ? 

It's existence is undeniable 

What is it  that you are questioning, exactly  ?  ...   and what is your reluctance to accept Henri Exton's  'word'   based on  ? 

[ferryman]

Of course to say the efits weren't suppressed and that the Times issued an apology on that basis is simply ridiculous. The Times apologised because the implied the McCanns hadn't handed them to the police. They did, however, suppress them as far as the public were concerned. While they touted the Little efits with all the pomp of an official police press conference, Smithman was left to wallow in some dark cupboard in the McCanns monstrosity of a new build. Why was that ?

The efits weren't suppressed.  They were handed to both Portuguese and British police years before the crimewatch programme when they were first released publicly.

[Wonderfulspam]

The efits weren't suppressed.  They were handed to both Portuguese and British police years before the crimewatch programme when they were first released publicly.

Wrong.

They never got a page in Kates book & they still don't appear on the main page of the find madeleine website.

I wonder why that is.


'These are 2 e-fits of the same man. A man who may hold the key to Madeleine McCanns disappearance.
They've been shut away in a private investigation file for 5 years.
They were compiled from 2 witness accounts on the night Madeleine disappeared, but never handed over to the Portuguese investigation. Now British police are treating them with the utmost importance"
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2760.0

British police are treating them with the utmost importance

Yet the McCanns still prefer bundledad.

Funny that.

[faithlilly]

The efits weren't suppressed.  They were handed to both Portuguese and British police years before the crimewatch programme when they were first released publicly.

And that is the point. Why did it take so many years ( and SY ) to make them public when the McCanns so stringently pushed other efits such as Gail Cooper's ( of a individual seen several weeks before the McCanns even arrived in PDL ) and Tanner's, which we now know was almost certainly not the alleged abductor ?

[jassi]

As these efits obviously cost quite a lot of money to obtain, one would have thought that the McCanns would have been eager to give them the widest publicity possible and that if the police were not going to do so, they themselves would ensure that the likenesses appeared on their website  for all to see.

[faithlilly]

As these efits obviously cost quite a lot of money to obtain, one would have thought that the McCanns would have been eager to give them the widest publicity possible and that if the police were not going to do so, they themselves would ensure that the likenesses appeared on their website  for all to see.

Indeed Jassi especially when their own investigators recommended that the McCanns focused their enquiries on the individual seen by the Smiths rather than Tanner, who they thought was not very credible as a witness.

[ferryman]

Wrong.

They never got a page in Kates book & they still don't appear on the main page of the find madeleine website.

I wonder why that is.


'These are 2 e-fits of the same man. A man who may hold the key to Madeleine McCanns disappearance.
They've been shut away in a private investigation file for 5 years.
They were compiled from 2 witness accounts on the night Madeleine disappeared, but never handed over to the Portuguese investigation. Now British police are treating them with the utmost importance"
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2760.0

British police are treating them with the utmost importance

Yet the McCanns still prefer bundledad.

Funny that.

I said the e-fits were passed on to British and Portuguese police years before the Crimewatch programme.

That is correct and acknowledged by The Times.

Ask the PJ and British police about the timing of public release of the efits.

[slartibartfast]

I said the e-fits were passed on to British and Portuguese police years before the Crimewatch programme.

That is correct and acknowledged by The Times.

Ask the PJ and British police about the timing of public release of the efits.

The efits were produced for the McCann's PIs as part of their contract so would belong to the McCanns. Why didn't the McCanns publicise them?

[ferryman]

The efits were produced for the McCann's PIs as part of their contract so would belong to the McCanns. Why didn't the McCanns publicise them?

Why didn't the police (British or Portuguese) publicise them if, as stated by The Times, they had them in their possession years before the Crimewatch programme?

[slartibartfast]

Why didn't the police (British or Portuguese) publicise them if, as stated by The Times, they had them in their possession years before the Crimewatch programme?

Who knows, the more salient point is why didn't the McCanns.

[Wonderfulspam]

"Everything we are doing is focused towards trying to find Madeleine McCann. There are no guarantees of any outcome, but I can assure you of our absolute determination to try and establish what has happened to her."

He stressed that neither her parents nor the McCanns' friends who were having dinner with them that night are among the 38 people identified.

"Neither her parents or any of the members of the group who were with her are either persons of interest or suspects.

"They (the McCanns) are parents who have lost their daughter and we are doing all we can to bring resolution for them to find out what has happened to Madeleine."
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/231942-madeleine-mccann-disappearance-investigated-in-new-met-police-probe/

The majority of people know all about the first part of the satatement ... I have highlighted what I believe is the salient part.

This isn't a whodunnit on TV or a book of detective fiction ... this is a real life family tragedy involving people who have suffered the loss of a precious child and who are doing all they can to get her back or at the least discover what happened to her.

She was abducted by Portuguese paedophile gang, Gerry knew that 7 years ago, somehow.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GRAHAM-MCKENZIE.htm



'doing all they can to get her back'?

"These are 2 e-fits of the same man. A man who may hold the key to Madeleine McCanns disappearance.
They've been shut away in a private investigation file for 5 years.They were compiled from 2 witness accounts on the night Madeleine disappeared, but never handed over to the Portuguese investigation. Now British police are treating them with the utmost importance"
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2760.0

[Wonderfulspam]

Why didn't the police (British or Portuguese) publicise them if, as stated by The Times, they had them in their possession years before the Crimewatch programme?

They were compiled from 2 witness accounts on the night Madeleine disappeared, but never handed over to the Portuguese investigation.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2760.0