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Redblossom

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Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 07:39:30 PM »

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 The Telegraph

By Colin Freeman

10:55PM BST 19 Oct 2013

Now the later sighting is being taken seriously. While DCI Redwood stressed that it could be a yet another innocent holidaymaker carrying his child, it is the key public line of inquiry, if only because of the absence of anything else. Yet it also means that what could be the key e-fit lay under wraps for several years. "It was passed to the Portuguese police at the time and for whatever reason they decided to nothing whatsoever with it," said one source close to the McCann investigation. "It was then handed to the Met two years ago, and they have now deemed it worthy of publication, but frankly it should have been out there a long time ago."

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There is no evidence anywhere that the efits were given to the PJ at the time as alledged, by the unnamed usual "source close to the investigation"

Original thread on this subject for anyone wishing to trawl through

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2794.0



Cariad

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Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2013, 07:42:36 PM »
I also recall you posting a video of channel 4 news Red, in which it is denied that the PJ ever had the e-fits.


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2013, 07:42:51 PM »
Quote

 The Telegraph

By Colin Freeman

10:55PM BST 19 Oct 2013

Now the later sighting is being taken seriously. While DCI Redwood stressed that it could be a yet another innocent holidaymaker carrying his child, it is the key public line of inquiry, if only because of the absence of anything else. Yet it also means that what could be the key e-fit lay under wraps for several years. "It was passed to the Portuguese police at the time and for whatever reason they decided to nothing whatsoever with it," said one source close to the McCann investigation. "It was then handed to the Met two years ago, and they have now deemed it worthy of publication, but frankly it should have been out there a long time ago."

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There is no evidence anywhere that the efits were given to the PJ at the time as alledged, by the unnamed usual "source close to the investigation"

Original thread on this subject for anyone wishing to trawl through

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2794.0




Simon Israel Channel 4 said the efits were not passed on to the Portuguese.


« Last Edit: December 14, 2013, 11:01:29 AM by Angelo222 »
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Redblossom

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Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2013, 08:55:47 PM »
Yes I did Cariad, and posted it in that long thread at least twice....with no comment, surprise surprise from certain people...Thanks WS...thats the one, thanks for digging it out, I would  rather have a named senior home affairs correspondent on C4 news any day over an unnamed "source close to the investigation", as we know what the latter has brought us over the years!!

I think its beyond doubt this was suppressed....Mccanns had it, their lawyers gagged Exton,not in Kates book either written years after, not a mention in any interview they gave, they never publicised the efits of a man seen on the night! carrying a blonde small child in pyjamas but they decided to give Gail Coopers creepyman (who she saw two weeks earlier during  the morning and nowhere near 5a and without any child)  a special conference fanfare, not forgetting another one in 2009 for Vicky Beckham in Spain! 

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Offline Apostate

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2013, 09:19:27 PM »
He was a  serious 'in the field'  expert,  afterall   (  one of the  'big boys'  as Clarence  Mitchell described him at the time )   ...  ex MI5  and all that 

So why did   the McCanns ignore  his  findings  ?  ....  not only ignore them,  it appears, but issued him with a warning from  their lawyers to  'keep schtum'  about them

Why  ?

They didn't like what he had to say. One of the sorriest episodes in this sorry tale.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2013, 09:39:10 PM »
Exton submitted his report to Madeleine's Fund in November 2008, recommending the release of the e-fits and the revised timeline, but the relationship between the Fund and the company had soured, and the Fund's lawyers warned Exton that the report and its e-fits had to remain confidential.

The Fund did not release the Smith e-fits; a spokesperson told the Sunday Times that the Oakley report had been "hypercritical of the people involved ... It just wouldn't be conducive to the investigation to have that report publicly declared because ... the newspapers would have been all over it. And it would have been completely distracting." Instead the Fund focused on the Tanner sighting, even though Tanner had not seen the man's face. Kate McCann did not include the Smith e-fits with the other images of suspects in her book, Madeleine (2011), even though she suggested that both the Tanner and Smith sightings were crucial.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

Kate McCann Crimewatch 33:00

" It doesn't matter how much heartache we put ourselves through so long as we get the result that we need "

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2653.0

Gerry McCann Crimewatch 33:55

"We don't know whats happened to Madeleine, erm we don't know who's taken her.
Probably our best chance of finding her is identifying that person, and that's why the E-Fits & sketches & the new information tonight are so important to us, erm because that's probably our best chance we've got of finding Madeleine"


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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2013, 11:14:08 AM »
I think the significance of these e-fits have been lost to most people but it was quite the eureka moment when the Sunday Times realised the significance of what had been effectively hidden for six years.

The first question I will ask is why has the newspaper chosen to remove the article?

Secondly, was the Sunday Times threatened with legal action?
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2013, 11:19:56 AM »
I think the significance of these e-fits have been lost to most people but it was quite the eureka moment when the Sunday Times realised the significance of what had been effectively hidden for six years.

The first question I will ask is why has the newspaper chosen to remove the article?

Secondly, was the Sunday Times threatened with legal action?

 remember if what the paper printed was true they could not be threatened with legal action..my view is the story was false

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2013, 11:45:40 AM »
remember if what the paper printed was true they could not be threatened with legal action..my view is the story was false

Do you mean the fact claim the McCanns threatened their own private investigators with legal action if they released the details of their investigations or the fact that the e-fits were withheld for six years??
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Carana

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2013, 11:47:52 AM »
The Mccanns had access to the e-fits, yet didn't publish them. I guess that that is some form of evidence.

I'm not sure that they did.

I haven't read anything, aside from that article, to suggest otherwise.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2013, 11:52:00 AM »
I'm not sure that they did.

I haven't read anything, aside from that article, to suggest otherwise.

It was Brian Kennedy who commissioned them on behalf of the McCanns.  Why wouldn't they have them Carana?

To get back to my original point, it suits the McCanns extremely well to have this issue glossed over because it is one of the few allegations against them which they couldn't deny.  Even Clarence couldn't get them out of this one!!
« Last Edit: December 14, 2013, 11:55:53 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2013, 11:55:31 AM »
Do you mean the fact claim the McCanns threatened their own private investigators with legal action if they released the details of their investigations or the fact that the e-fits were withheld for six years??

 Ithink this is another myth...just a standard confidentiality agreement...nothing more

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2013, 12:02:31 PM »
Ithink this is another myth...just a standard confidentiality agreement...nothing more

Why are the parents of a child missing for six years in very suspicious circumstances and, who assured the public that everything to do with the search for that child would be up front and transparent, involved in confidentiality agreements in any event??

The very nature of the beast infers secrecy and hidden agendas and some people wonder why the McCanns attract ridicule.  @)(++(*
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2013, 12:08:27 PM »
Why are the parents of a child missing for six years in very suspicious circumstances and, who assured the public that everything to do with the search for that child would be up front and transparent, involved in confidentiality agreements in any event??

The very nature of the beast infers secrecy and hidden agendas and some people wonder why the McCanns attract ridicule.  @)(++(*

 Perhaps its just that you don't understand...papers pay a lot for any tit bits re people in the public eye tahts why they have confidentiality agreements for everyone they employ. This is just another innocent action being interpreted as something sinister..It isn't its standard practice

Offline Carana

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2013, 12:09:52 PM »
It was Brian Kennedy who commissioned them on behalf of the McCanns.  Why wouldn't they have them Carana?

To get back to my original point, it suits the McCanns extremely well to have this issue glossed over because it is one of the few allegations against them which they couldn't deny.  Even Clarence couldn't get them out of this one!!

We don't know the ins and outs of the Halligen saga. I find it plausible that information may have been withheld by subcontractors pending payment by Halligen... which was unlikely to happen.