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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #360 on: December 17, 2013, 04:25:59 PM »
Nope not at all.

It has been stated and not withdrawn the efits were not handed over to the PJ before the ST article came out.

Where did Simon Israel of C4 news get this information from? In order to state they were not given to the PJ the PJ must have confirmed to him that they did not receive them. Correct?

Otherwsie he has made it up.

Are you accusing him of making it yup DaveL?

Why would he say that on TV if it was not true?

If as a journalist you state "they were never passed onto the PJ" you must have received that information from the people you claim haven't received them?

agree?

 Do you have  a link because you have stated something that isn't true so I cant really trust anything you say

Offline Albertini

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #361 on: December 17, 2013, 04:28:18 PM »
Do you have  a link because you have stated something that isn't true so I cant really trust anything you say

A respected journalist on C4 has stated the PJ didn't receive them on the 14th October, 2 weeks before the ST article.  How does that make it not true?

Here is your link:


Offline Luz

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #362 on: December 17, 2013, 04:29:04 PM »
I wouldn't even bother asking ...they just seem to post what they like and call it the "truth"


Why should I respond to you people that never support your own statements?!
Do your own home work.
There is plenty of information (objective) in http://www.mccannfiles.com

Offline Luz

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #363 on: December 17, 2013, 04:31:44 PM »
A respected journalist on C4 has stated the PJ didn't receive them on the 14th October, 2 weeks before the ST article.  How does that make it not true?

Here is your link:



I don't even believe the Metropolitan Police had access to that information much earlier than the CW show.

icabodcrane

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Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #364 on: December 17, 2013, 04:35:40 PM »
There is no probability about it. Mitchell is their spokesperson, so any quote emanating from the McCann's or a source close to the McCann's comes from Mitchell.

Note his two headed approach, often in the same article or piece, where he gives an on the record quote to say the dignified bit, but then gives a quote as "a source close" to the Mccann's to lay the boot in.

Just like he did in that piece about the PJ not co-operating with SY.

Utterly odious.

Yes,  this  'media monitoring'  is a cynical business isn't it  ?  ...  little wonder that the so-called  spin doctors  are universally despised,  even within their own circles

I wonder what Sclotland Yard makes of it though  (  assuming the  anonymously sourced quote is untrue  )   

The reason I ask is that I am reminded of what Matt Tapp  ( police media adviser  )  said on the Dispatches programme

When refering to the frenzied media speculation surrounding the McCann case,  he noted that  secrecy laws preventing comment by Portuguese police hampered the case

He stressed how important it was for the media to be given as much accurate information as possible and that it was crucial for the police to speak to the media  in order to provide background information

The importance lay,  he advised,  in the need to ensure the media's approach was focussed, and in line with the investigation  ...  otherwise,  in his words,  "The media can be extremely disruptive"

That being the case,   I imagine Scotland Yard are not best pleased when  'sources close to the McCanns'  feed information to the media that may confuse or muddy the waters 

Offline Luz

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #365 on: December 17, 2013, 04:37:50 PM »
It's my conviction that something is not well in the McCann kingdom. After the CW, that I didn't watch and so won't discuss, it seems the alleged relationship  between the parents and the SY has suffered a terminal shut down.

It's quite revealing that the donations button in their Ltd Company homepage has been down for quite a while now.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #366 on: December 17, 2013, 04:41:18 PM »
A respected journalist on C4 has stated the PJ didn't receive them on the 14th October, 2 weeks before the ST article.  How does that make it not true?

Here is your link:


I repeat..is this your idea of an"official " statement..Where did the reporter get this information from....it carries no more wight than any other statement re the efits


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #367 on: December 17, 2013, 04:45:43 PM »
It's my conviction that something is not well in the McCann kingdom. After the CW, that I didn't watch and so won't discuss, it seems the alleged relationship  between the parents and the SY has suffered a terminal shut down.

It's quite revealing that the donations button in their Ltd Company homepage has been down for quite a while now.

its your conviction that amaral has been officially cleared which is rubbish...so we take your convictions with a pinch of salt

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #368 on: December 17, 2013, 04:49:31 PM »
There has been no official statement re the efits either from the pj   ...sy...or the mccanns...until there is then all you have is conflicting stories from the media which you decide to accept or reject according to your prejudices

Offline Luz

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #369 on: December 17, 2013, 04:49:49 PM »
I repeat..is this your idea of an"official " statement..Where did the reporter get this information from....it carries no more wight than any other statement re the efits


You have a point there.

But then you have also to accept that the information that the "source close to the McCann" gave about their alleged submission of the Exton report to the PJ has no substance.

I recall that the portuguese General Attorney said that any new relevant evidence would re-open the investigation - if they had sent that report, for sure it would had been considered (not by the PJ, it's not the police that decides, but by the Public Ministry).

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #370 on: December 17, 2013, 04:52:23 PM »

You have a point there.

But then you have also to accept that the information that the "source close to the McCann" gave about their alleged submission of the Exton report to the PJ has no substance.

I recall that the portuguese General Attorney said that any new relevant evidence would re-open the investigation - if they had sent that report, for sure it would had been considered (not by the PJ, it's not the police that decides, but by the Public Ministry).

perhaps it was sent direct to the public ministry...none of us know

Offline Luz

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #371 on: December 17, 2013, 04:54:16 PM »
OK......

According to a source close to the McCanns, SY received the report and e-fits 2 years ago http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

According to a source close to the McCanns, the PJ received the report "at the time" which presumably means when the report was completed in 2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

The e-fits were produced in 2008 by the McCanns own investigators after becoming dissatisfied with the PJ investigation. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

The PJ ignored it because they thought Tannerman more viable http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html Even though the PJ denied having the e-fits in the first place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w21mREDqtI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The McCanns who were dissatisfied with PJ investigation (who at the time favoured Tannerman) also favoured Tannerman so set the lawyers on the Oakley investigators to keep the e-fits under wraps via a confidentiality agreement http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post273561.html#p273561 or http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post273258.html#p273258

Once SY opened their own investigation in 2011 they needed to ask permission of the McCanns to get copies of the report http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post273258.html#p273258

Once SY realised the importance of the e-fits 2 years after going to all that trouble to get them in the first place, the McCanns decided to blame the PJ for doing nothing with them. The irony being they themselves had placed a confidentiality agreement on them "at the time" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

Who's to blame?

1.SY for doing nothing for 2 years?
2.The PJ for having the confidentiality bound e-fits since 2008 (which they have denied).
3.The McCanns for wasting donated funds on a report, they then wasted more donated funds on suppressing?
4. Crimewatch for not making a programme in 2011 to launch the e-fits (this ones for Ferryman)


Thank you for that nicely assembled evidence of this charade.

Offline Carana

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #372 on: December 17, 2013, 05:01:38 PM »
Could you please support that statement?
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Could you be more explicit?
« Last Edit: December 17, 2013, 05:04:49 PM by Carana »

AnneGuedes

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Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #373 on: December 17, 2013, 05:07:01 PM »
OK......

According to a source close to the McCanns, SY received the report and e-fits 2 years ago http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html


According to a source close to the McCanns, the PJ received the report "at the time" which presumably means when the report was completed in 2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

The e-fits were produced in 2008 by the McCanns own investigators after becoming dissatisfied with the PJ investigation. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

The PJ ignored it because they thought Tannerman more viable http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html Even though the PJ denied having the e-fits in the first place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w21mREDqtI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The McCanns who were dissatisfied with PJ investigation (who at the time favoured Tannerman) also favoured Tannerman so set the lawyers on the Oakley investigators to keep the e-fits under wraps via a confidentiality agreement http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post273561.html#p273561 or http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post273258.html#p273258

Once SY opened their own investigation in 2011 they needed to ask permission of the McCanns to get copies of the report http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post273258.html#p273258

Once SY realised the importance of the e-fits 2 years after going to all that trouble to get them in the first place, the McCanns decided to blame the PJ for doing nothing with them. The irony being they themselves had placed a confidentiality agreement on them "at the time" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10391348/Madeleine-McCann-is-there-hope-at-last.html

Who's to blame?

1.SY for doing nothing for 2 years?
2.The PJ for having the confidentiality bound e-fits since 2008 (which they have denied).
3.The McCanns for wasting donated funds on a report, they then wasted more donated funds on suppressing?
4. Crimewatch for not making a programme in 2011 to launch the e-fits (this ones for Ferryman)
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All this "charade", as Luz says, for 2 disparate e-fits supposed to represent the same person!

Offline jassi

Re: Why did the McCanns reject Henri Exton's expertise ?
« Reply #374 on: December 17, 2013, 05:13:18 PM »
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All this "charade", as Luz says, for 2 disparate e-fits supposed to represent the same person!

And which, to date, appear to have achieved nothing.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future