Was Martin Smith mistaken about his 60% - 80% certainty after all?

[faithlilly]

Both Martin Smith and his wife were interviewed again, the review team found them to be credible witnesses and both said the man they saw could have been Gerry McCann.

And no independent witness places Gerry at the tapas table at 10pm or thereabouts, that is a fact.

[gilet]

Both Martin Smith and his wife were interviewed again, the review team found them to be credible witnesses and both said the man they saw could have been Gerry McCann.

And no independent witness places Gerry at the tapas table at 10pm or thereabouts, that is a fact.

That is a very, very inaccurate statement you have made.

Martin Smith said the man could have been Gerry McCann. No other person in that family ever made a statement to that effect.

[AnneGuedes]

That is a very, very inaccurate statement you have made.

Martin Smith said the man could have been Gerry McCann. No other person in that family ever made a statement to that effect.

No other person thought it was useful to make a statement, Mr Smith stated his wife had the same opinion. Don't you understand he was not denouncing someone as the thousands did after CW, he thought and thought again, perhaps he would have doubted himself if his wife hadn't agreed. But she did and he felt that, as a citizen, he had to inform the police.

[Redblossom]

You are correct of course, gilet is wrong, surprised if he has read the files.

"I saw Gerard McCann (sic) going down the plane stairs carrying one of his children on 9th September 2007 BBC news at 10 PM, I have been shown the video clip by Sergeant Hogan which I recognise. A clip I have seen before on the Internet. In relation to the video clips of Gerard McCann and the person I saw on 3rd May 2007 when I saw the BBC news at 10 PM on 9th September 2007 something struck me that it could have been the same person. It was the way Gerard McCann turned his head down which was similar to what the individual did on 3rd May 2007 when we met him. It may have been the way he was carrying the child either. I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane. After seeing the BBC news at 10 PM, footage on the 9th September 2007 I contacted Leicestershire police with this information. During that time I spoke to all my family members who were with me on the night of 3rd May 2007 about this and the only one who felt the same way as me was my wife. She had seen the video clip of Gerard McCann walking down the stairs of the plane earlier that day. We did not discuss this until some days later. This statement has been read over to me and is correct."

[faithlilly]

That is a very, very inaccurate statement you have made.

Martin Smith said the man could have been Gerry McCann. No other person in that family ever made a statement to that effect.

From Martin Smith's 30th of January 2008 statement :

'In relation to the video clips of Gerard McCann and the person I saw on 3rd May 2007 when I saw the BBC news at 10 PM on 9th September 2007 something struck me that it could have been the same person. It was the way Gerard McCann turned his head down which was similar to what the individual did on 3rd May 2007 when we met him. It may have been the way he was carrying the child either. I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane. After seeing the BBC news at 10 PM, footage on the 9th September 2007 I contacted Leicestershire police with this information. During that time I spoke to all my family members who were with me on the night of 3rd May 2007 about this and the only one who felt the same way as me was my wife. '

SY believe Martin Smith is a credible witness, why don't you ?

[gilet]

There was only one member of the Smith family who ever made a statement about the person resembling Gerry McCann.

It is not a matter of whether I like it or not. It is actual fact.

And you are wrong about witnesses locating Gerry McCann as well.

[AnneGuedes]

There was only one member of the Smith family who ever made a statement about the person resembling Gerry McCann.

It is not a matter of whether I like it or not. It is actual fact.

And you are wrong about witnesses locating Gerry McCann as well.

Read the AG report and see how wrong you are.
BTW I think he was at the table.

[AnneGuedes]

SY believe Martin Smith is a credible witness, why don't you ?

It took them more than 2 years and the half to believe so while it took only 4 months to Mr Amaral..

[gilet]

There is no statement from anyone other than Mr Smith relating to Gerry McCann and Mr Smiths hearsay about his wife is simply not evidence that she said it.

[AnneGuedes]

There is no statement from anyone other than Mr Smith relating to Gerry McCann and Mr Smiths hearsay about his wife is simply not evidence that she said it.

As with Mr McCann when he said his wife had found the shutters and window open ?

[gilet]

It took them more than 2 years and the half to believe so while it took only 4 months to Mr Amaral..

I have never said that Martin Smith is not a credible witness. But being a credible witness who thinks that he might have seen something does not and never will be accepted by anyone who has any background in law as proof. When not one of the other witnesses agrees with him (except in his own hearsay comment) then I a perfectly at liberty to point that out and to say that on balance and with a number of other perfectly credible witnesses locating Gerry McCann elsewhere at the same moment then on balance the proof lies not with Mr Smith.

[gilet]

As with Mr McCann when he said his wife had found the shutters and window open ?

Correct. What is your point?

Mr Smith cannot testify as to what his wife thought any more than Gerry McCann can. They can offer hearsay but it is not acceptable evidence.

[AnneGuedes]

Correct. What is your point?

Mr Smith cannot testify as to what his wife thought any more than Gerry McCann can. They can offer hearsay but it is not acceptable evidence.

You then admit that we only have Mrs McCann's word for the open shutters/window ?

[faithlilly]

Correct. What is your point?

Mr Smith cannot testify as to what his wife thought any more than Gerry McCann can. They can offer hearsay but it is not acceptable evidence.

Do you believe Martin Smith was accurate when he said his wife agreed that the man they saw was Gerry McCann ?

[Kazcutt]

Smith said he looked like gerry and its been taken as it was gerry due to bad translation i think ,ive read it tonight somewhere ,
I cant see sy saying its not gerry if a witness is saying it is ,