The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!

[Angelo222]

8 year old daughter doesn't return home, you'd at least call the police, I'da thought, that'd be a start, but she didn't.

People who try to make excuses for the Ciprianos only weaken their own credibility imo.

[Wonderfulspam]

People who try to make excuses for the Ciprianos only weaken their own credibility imo.

Indeed, it's only McCann supporters who do.

Says it all really,

[stephen25000]

8 year old daughter doesn't return home, you'd at least call the police, I'da thought, that'd be a start, but she didn't.

Precisely.

Now how long was it before she raised the alarm over her daughter's disappearance ?

[Angelo222]

Precisely.

Now how long was it before she raised the alarm over her daughter's disappearance ?

She didn't bother, she made the woeful excuse that her mobile had no credit but conveniently forgot to walk a short distance to tell the GNR officers at the nearby fair.  It was the owner of the shop who contacted the GNR when she became aware of Joana's disappearance.  Leonor still had time to fill her face with cakes though before turning up at the GNR office the next morning.

[Brietta]

They endorse the murder of little girls through their support of the Ciprianos.

That's the kind of people they are.

I think "the kind of people they are" support the rule of law ... abhor the torture of prisoners ... and support the principle enshrined in "Innocent till proven guilty."

I think "they" prefer convictions for crime to be supported by evidence presented in a court of law.

[DCI]

She didn't bother, she made the woeful excuse that her mobile had no credit but conveniently forgot to walk a short distance to tell the GNR officers at the nearby fair.  It was the owner of the shop who contacted the GNR when she became aware of Joana's disappearance.  Leonor still had time to fill her face with cakes though before turning up at the GNR office the next morning.

From old thread

Celia helps search and phones police approx        12.30/40
Leonora informs GNR near the church. who tells her to report it tomorrow

[Wonderfulspam]

I think "the kind of people they are" support the rule of law ... abhor the torture of prisoners ... and support the principle enshrined in "Innocent till proven guilty."

I think "they" prefer convictions for crime to be supported by evidence presented in a court of law.

I'll post it again, because AnnaLor is here and she doesn't like what I have to say.

The Ciprianos were convicted, using evidence that was presented in a court of law.

If you want to support child murderers,well, good luck with that.

[DCI]

Investigations conducted by the Judicial Police of Faro coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral did not reach any clear proof against Leonor and João Cipriano - just a theory, a story that the prosecutor José Pinheiro struggled to defend in court.

[faithlilly]

I think "the kind of people they are" support the rule of law ... abhor the torture of prisoners ... and support the principle enshrined in "Innocent till proven guilty."

I think "they" prefer convictions for crime to be supported by evidence presented in a court of law.

'Inherently good people' isn't that how Kate describes you ? The message being  that anyone with a modicum of reasoning ability who doesn't buy into the whole abduction charade is ' inherently bad'. Nice little propoganda trick but hardly subtle.

[faithlilly]

Investigations conducted by the Judicial Police of Faro coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral did not reach any clear proof against Leonor and João Cipriano - just a theory, a story that the prosecutor José Pinheiro struggled to defend in court.

If the words are not your own would you mind posting a link to your quote ?

[Wonderfulspam]

Investigations conducted by the Judicial Police of Faro coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral did not reach any clear proof against Leonor and João Cipriano - just a theory, a story that the prosecutor José Pinheiro struggled to defend in court.

Who better to make an informed decision on the innocence or otherwise of the Ciprianos?

A jury, which were shown all the evidence and reached a majority verdict of their guilt,

Or, some anonoymous rampant McCann enthusiasts, who only ever heard about the case because of Kate?

I'm sticking with The jury.

[DCI]

If the words are not your own would you mind posting a link to your quote ?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3319.0

[faithlilly]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3319.0

The prosecutor's case was certainly proved to the jury.

[DCI]

The prosecutor's case was certainly proved to the jury.

Not all the jury! Or judges, not sure.

Did you know, Leonor didn't sign her confession?

Inspectors Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Marques Bom signed the document saying it was the result of an “informal chat” that took place with Leonor Cipriano.

[faithlilly]

Not all the jury! Or judges, not sure.

Did you know, Leonor didn't sign her confession?

Inspectors Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Marques Bom signed the document saying it was the result of an “informal chat” that took place with Leonor Cipriano.

As a confession is worthless unless repeated in court I don't actually see your point.